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#1
Hi Guys.

I'm going into my 3rd year of BA Product design this October and for the past 3 years I've dreamnt of making my own electric piano.

I've always been fascinated by the sounds produced by Rhodes/Wurlis and owning a Rhodes over the past year and a bit has furthered that fascination.

I've pretty much ripped off a Rhodes in terms of this first design here but it was mostly an exercise to convince myself I can get something down on CAD and to get the ball rolling.

For my lecturers to accept this as a project I've got to A. show that this isn't just going to be another Rhodes and B.. come back to uni having done some research and with a rough idea of what it's going to do/be like.

As far as making it not like a Rhodes I've got a few ideas.. I want to experiment with different materials for tone/vibration generation and eventually look to having the tine/tone generator customization so that the user could have their own unique sounding instrument. I have ordered some spare Rhodes pick ups and am in the process of making a one key model. (I'll post the design for this in a few days.) This model will allow me to identify some potential tone generation materials and will give me confidence I will be able to make something that makes a sound lol.

A few problems I currently feel I'm facing.

Action.. I'm struggling to wrap my head around how I'm going to get the hammer to return from hitting the tine while the key is still depressed, I'm going to play around with putting a CAM on the hammer so hopefully once its past a certain point the hammer drops off even with the key still depressed.

Tuning... How the hell am I going to get this thing to be in tune... well from my understanding the Rhodes is tuned using the little coil of wire wrapped around the tines and moving them up and down changed how many vibrations per second they are moving ? I think? anyway for now I'm hoping to employ a similar technique and my soon to be made test model will also help me understand such things.

Construction.. So I'm planning to 3-d print some repetitive parts e.g. hammers, pickup holders, possible even keys?!.. if not 3D printed I could acquire some keys from a piano perhaps?.. not sure yet. As for frame I will be looking at perhaps a metal framework and then lots of plastics.. possibly see through plastics in some areas if the insides look nice enough..

anyway I'm sure there's loads and loads I've missed here and perhaps I sound totally mental.. who knows lol

What I do know is I have a hell of a lot of determination, I'm paying a lot for this degree, and we're given the opportunity to write our own brief for third year given pretty much unlimited creative freedom.. I WANT TO MAKE THIS WORK!!


I don't want to offend anyone who might think I'm simplifying the EMP for what it is, I know these aren't the simplest of things and a hell of a lot of R and D went into them, but still I want to have a go.. anyway the pictures below demonstrate my design so far. The action could be said to be too simple as there's no way shown for the hammer to return to a neutral position when the key is still depressed however that's something I hope to tackle.

I will also be leaving out a sustain pedal for now unless it seems feasible for me to do in the time I'll have.

Kind of hoping I don't get shot down with this idea but I thought that I'm best putting it to the experts first to see what you guys think.




#2
The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / What EP is this?!
February 08, 2017, 07:45:47 AM
https://soundcloud.com/stampthewax/dennis-ayler-feat-tenderlonious-nobody-but-u

Throughout this song there is an EP and it's a bit more prominent at the end, I think it might be a Wurly with an filter applied to it, sounds too wide a frequency range to be a wah?

Whats confusing me is earlier in the song it sounds more like a Rhodes but I'm really not sure

Anyway if anyone could give me their 2c on whats being used and perhaps what effects then that would be great, particularly from the 4:57 mark :)

Thanks
#3
[ADMIN] Split this thread off from the Fender Rhodes Documentary thread just to keep things nice and tidy.

No worries! After playing it a little I'm wondering if I could increase the volume on the lowest octave slightly? I really like the tone of the note just want it a little louder without having to adjust the bass boost, is there a way I can do this by adjusting the pick ups?

Thanks
#4
Hi there, new to the forum and I'm just after some advice

I've used Rhodes emulators for the last two years and although they are fun, I'm after the real thing now. I'd be looking to spend around 1000 GBP. A few things I wanted to ask, I'm looking to get a stage model and I'm wondering if an amp is 100 percent necessary? I was thinking of running the signal into my computer and then through Logic Pro X. I thought this could possibly be desirable as I would be able to utilize my monitor speakers and get a decent representation of the low end produced by the instrument. So if I was intending to do this would I need some kind of pre amp? Or would running the signal through a guitar amp then using the headphone out be best for this?

The next thing I want to know is would 1000 GBP be considered an amount capable of getting a decent Rhodes? I've repaired bikes for years in  a workshop and currently have access to two work areas. (I know these are two completely different animals) but I'm not afraid of learning how something works then attempting to carry out repairs myself. Gotta start somewhere I suppose. Some Pianos I've looked at have been a few hundred pounds below my price point but need some pickups either replacing or rewiring, is this a task that should be avoided?

I'm aware of some of the things to check for with looking at pianos to purchase e.g. signs the piano was stored in a damp area, corrosion on tines/tone bars, damage to the tolex indicating the piano hasn't been taken care of. However one slightly stressful element is I am living in Swansea, most of the Pianos I see for sale are around London so if I'm making that journey I'm going to be hoping to make a purchase, so I'm basically trying to work out, if im going to be spending around 1k, is there a high chance of the piano being in bad shape?

Sorry if this is badly written/constructed, but I'm really excited about the prospect of owning a Rhodes and wish to go about it in a sensible manner lol. Thanks for reading.

Just to clarify I've read the buyers guide and that was very handy, I've been referring to it when looking at Pianos on ebay, out of interest would something of this nature be worth looking at?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fender-Rhodes-Mk1-Stage-Piano-/172147809822?hash=item2814cf1e1e:g:9FQAAOSw9uFW9sn1

I guess it could be recommended to ask for some close up photos of tines etc before committing to travelling to check it out?

I will be looking to purchase in a little under a month so I have some time to research.