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Thick back rail felt is the secret sauce I use. But you have to also mod the entire rest of the action. The results make any Rhodes play better than ever before. But you have to REALLY know your stuff to make it work. Once you crack it, there’s no going back...

A word of warning don’t use pliers. I typically use one of those screw drivers which has an empty shaft for using removable bits. Put the key pin in the shaft of the screwdriver and gently lever the key pin (only if required) and in as few steps as possible as you don’t want to damage the hole.

To echo what Tim said, definitely DO NOT USE PLIERS.  The previous tech on mine did and the pins have the scars to prove it.  I ended up using a pencil cut in half ( a wooden dowel would have been a better choice) and gently tapped that against the pin with a rubber mallet until the key was squared up.  Shimming and leveling is a piece of cake its just kind of boring, grab a beverage and something flat and level and get to it.

Thank you both! Pliers it is then hehe :P

I just finished removing the last of the bumps - hooray! I've noticed there was lots of gunk left on the underside of the hammer cams where the previous felts has been. I will clean that off so that they are smooth.

When depressing the keys (before aftertouch) should the hammer tips all reach the same height give or take a couple mm's?

I see that some are much higher/lower in no obvious pattern - sometimes by 10/20mm. This can be within the same grouping/section. The keys themselves are pretty much the same height when taken out and laid side by side - both the key front and the pedestal height. The hammer cams seem to be equal too so it's a bit odd that they can rest at such varying heights when depressed.

A few of the balance pin bushings fell apart as I lifted the keys. Are they tricky to replace? I see that there are special tools and jigs for this - I suppose I will need the correct tools to to it?

The hammers should not be uneven like this. The things contributing to this amount of even-ness can be a poorly installed miracle mod (prob the cause in this case)- so the bumps are in the wrong places and as you have already mentioned, glue left on underside of cams (these need to be super clean and polished up), unevenly installed pedestal felt and possibly uneven back rail felt that's worn, bunched up or full of gunk. Personally speaking, I would remove this miracle mod and start again if it's this uneven up and down the keyboard. BUT first, get the key heights and dip to factory specs, and go from there.

I think you should name who the tech is, this is not acceptable work at all. I would never, ever, let any Rhodes out of my workshop in that state and then to call it a pro level service? WTF!! Without a properly regulated keyboard and action, you simply can't have a decent result. There are too many errors here it's embarrasing. I would ask for some money back and have the work re-done.

I saw your video on Facebook, but really we need to hear some direct audio from the piano first- also close up photos of the tips and insides will be helpful.  8)

The Daphon Choruses are amazing for the money. Sounds much like a CE-2

Please don’t rip it apart. We recently resurrected one here  from the dead and although it was a lot of work it was worth it to keep this important piece of Rhodes history complete. You can find the schematics on the supersite. Here’s a video I made about the ek10 we worked on:

I stand by the advice I gave earlier (with respect of course). Every restore/service I do, I change the tips and the piano has ALWAYS without fail sounded and played more evenly than before. It's obviously up to the individual vendor or customer or repair place what they want to do, but for me, I don't believe keeping original tips is in any way beneficial- unless tips available from current vendors don't suit the tone they are after, but that's something I don't often run into. Some direct audio of the piano would be helpful in this instance too. Peace y'all!

Parts, Service, Maintenance & Repairs / Re: Repair/service Rhodes Mk2
« on: September 19, 2019, 05:14:04 AM »
Tim Hodges at Bristol Electric Piano Company is your man for the South West!

Hang on a sec- theres is no mention that this particular piano the OP has posted about is the Valente! Seems to me like it might be something completely new?

It's real for sure. I had to vet the whole thing before I allowed them post.

You can see the piano in action here:

Aha fair do's!

Hang on a sec- theres is no mention that this particular piano the OP has posted about is the Valente! Seems to me like it might be something completely new?

... :o

The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / Re: Pickup Wiring
« on: June 11, 2019, 10:40:38 AM »
Depending on where the corrosion is you can sometimes repair them. If you want to send them to me (PM me for details/price, Im based in Leeds UK) I can try repair them for you, though the disclaimer is it's not always possible depending on where the corrosion resides. If it's on the exposed bit of wire that comes out of the coil then we are good, if not then its a case of rewinding, or replacing them with new ones from Electric Keys. Currently I'm not in a position to offer rewinding yet, (but will be soon).  8) Cheers!

Parts, Service, Maintenance & Repairs / Re: Woven Damper Felts
« on: May 22, 2019, 03:34:20 PM »
Yep, these are not woven felts. They are standard felts that are grooved and glued to a red cloth layer as has been said. Woven felts were used on late MK2's and V's and did a much better job of stopping the tines, thought they do start to unravel over time.

What model of rhodes is this, and also what grommets did you use? Ive heard this chirping on MKV's which use the rubber standoffs- the lack of a second screw though good for sustain, makes the sound less stable in this area. So my thoughts are the grommets you've used may be too soft, and/or the springs are incorrect and possibly the screws are not mated well to the grommets used. Did you use VV grommets AND screws together? Or did you leave the old screws and put in new grommets? Its gonna be a process of elimination here. Also, as has been said, make sure the tine is tight to the tonebar and also that the screw and grommet is correctly seated in the tonebar too. When replacing the grommets and screws make sure that you seat the grommet in by hand so it mates correctly with the tonebar and centres into the spring nicely, THEN put the screw in- dont put them in together as you wont necessarily get the optimum alignment and seating which can cause the washers to vibrate and the tonebar assembly to not hold tight.

My advice would be to try softer tips in this area, (its not futile to change out tips at all!) Give some square 'white' tips a blast from VV which are softer than the standard graduated white tips and see if this improves things or alternatively, extend the yellow tips upwards into the white tip area and see if this helps.

Also, you can shave a little off the tip edge to remove the grooves and this will likely help too if you don't want to change out the tips. Also, changing out the grommets and screws in this area may well help- hardened grommets give a more pronounced attack. It may just be that changing the grooved tips for new white graduated tips will do the job too. But you are correct in as much as these tips and the woodcore tips do groove up quicker than other areas...

If the original Peterson is working as it should, they sound great stock. I'd experiment trying a few different pedals in the FX loop first. There's also a tweeter mod you can do but I havent done it myself, Im very happy with the stock Peterson sound.

Parts, Service, Maintenance & Repairs / Re: MKV Hammer Tips
« on: February 14, 2019, 09:21:12 AM »
Yeah the VV bass tips are definitely harder, the rest work great for me in normal config now that Ive played the piano in a bit and my ears have now gotten used to the extra harmonics since my first post. I kinda like the harder tips in the bass as you get more 'zing' in the top end, however you do notice the transition from these tips to the next more. VV suggest using their red angled tips instead for the MKV bass range, these are the same as bass end square tips but angled. (softer rubber essentially).

Parts, Service, Maintenance & Repairs / MKV Hammer Tips
« on: January 26, 2019, 09:35:53 AM »
Hey guys. Im currently working on a MKV, only the 2nd Ive worked on as they are very rare here in the UK. The original tips were very grooved so I couldnt keep them. Anyway, I installed a VV graduated tip set which I generally use for all post 75 pianos and they work great on every piano Ive used them in. However, the MKV is a different beast. The woodcore sounds great, the second hardest tips sound good (if a little duller than expected) and the other ranges (red, green, yellow) sound great yet with a lot more overtone and less deep bass. (Thats my observation anyway).

I'd love to get any insight or tips on the ranges and type of tips you use to get an even tone across the board. When you're renovating a MKV what are you using?

Any info much appreciated. Not much out there regarding replacing tips on a V and whats the best way to go. Im going to experiment myself this week and will report back but thought Id ask anyway.


The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / Re: Hammer height
« on: January 06, 2019, 07:44:25 AM »
This is an issue with many rhodes and is often a head scratcher. It can be a combination of many things or one of these things from the list.

- not all keys cut the same from factory
- key warping
- worn back rail felt
- worn pedestal felts
- badly placed miracle mod bumps or badly made original bumps from factory
- hammer combs not screwed down fully
- uneven bridal strap/damper tension
- debris under keys or on back rail felt
- keys not seated properly
- keyframe warped or not screwed down properly
- action rail warped or not screwed down properly

Check all of these and report back!

The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / Re: Identification
« on: December 21, 2018, 02:42:38 PM »
Its an original student piano, customised by Custom Vintage Keys.

I use a gel based super glue for the bumps, its allows greater maneuverability and control over the amount applied/thickness compared to normal superglue. I use contact cement for the felt. Its a great combo, no issues.

My main axe is a 1980 MK2 and it sounds massive, just as wide frequentially as my early '72 suitcase. There's definitely a difference but Ive never struggled to make any era sound like any other. My 2 penneth!

The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / Re: Miracle Mod Install Problem?
« on: July 08, 2018, 02:35:45 PM »
Basically, you need to adjust the position of the lower bump/felt until it performs correctly; once you find this placement and the note behaves like the high note you like the feel of, do the same for a couple of notes in the midrange. Then remove the felt you have glued down to test out the bumps, and draw a line with a straight edge between all the bumps. Then you should get the correct placement across the keybed. As the keybeds aren't cut perfectly you often get variance where the bump should be placed as you go from lower to higher keys. My 2 cents.

Hi folks- Im looking for a black rocker switch for the A/B pickup selector on a Hohner Clavinet/Pianet DUO. Ideally the black rocker button and the switch that goes underneath it. Please PM me if you have one for sale! Many thanks, Dan

Hey Mellowman.

I might be able to assist! My electrical engineer partner at the RhodesWorks here in Leeds (Howard at Mac Amps) can often repair Rhodes pickups depending on where the corrosion or break is in the copper wire. If you want to send them over to me I can get him to inspect them all and see how many are salvageable and get you a price if you like? Will be much cheaper than buying a whole lot of new ones! We can but try! Shoot me a PM if you like, will do my best to help. Heres some links just so you know im legit!

all the best

Just to say I had my tech modify my Janus amp so that it doesn't cut the rhodes sound when jacks are plugged in.

Awful news. What's the plan going forward?

sounds great! do you have any pics?

Would be great to hear a sound clip if poss so we can assist you better. Possible?

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