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The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Reed plates
« on: July 13, 2019, 12:35:11 PM »
What model is it?

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Reed plates
« on: July 13, 2019, 12:34:18 PM »
I believe they are to help with sustain. You may remove them for tuning, but you should put them back again.

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Wurly 112 Opinons.
« on: July 11, 2019, 06:32:03 AM »
Any updates on this 112?

Contact cement is what we use to attach plastic keytops in all types of pianos. When applied correctly, allowing it to dry a bit before attaching the parts together, it will not fall off in normal use. The same goes for the logos.
Just remember, use mineral spirits, not acetone or other chemicals to remove excess.
Wurlitzer tops are ABS, not vinyl.

Interesting. I never knew about this, but I don't own any "non A" 200 series pianos at the moment.
I only briefly owned a regular 200, but it was a "flip"

I've heard this sound in many pianos, but don't remember the solution. It may be a voicing issue. What are the hammer tips like? Are they worn and hardened?

I don't think that is true about the stereo effect, but then again, maybe it was something they tried in 1968 only.  Anyone can add a cap to filter out some bass from the right speaker, but I don't think I would do that. An external stereo effect pedal would be better.

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Noise in the amplifier.
« on: June 25, 2019, 03:59:30 PM »
That is awesome and cheaper than I expected.


Yes, but since the tight space dictates finding speakers that are very close in size to the originals, will it change the sound that much? (Other than volume difference if different impedance is used)

In other words, yes, if you could physically put 8" round speakers in place of the 4x8's, then the sound will change a lot. But if you are putting in different 4x8's, would it really change that much? I don't think so, because I remember doing this when those previously mentioned Radio Shack speakers were available, and they sounded fine.

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Noise in the amplifier.
« on: June 25, 2019, 06:50:30 AM »
Not to get off topic, but where do you get that brass pad solder cleaner?
I am so glad that I bought an adjustable soldering station when Radio Shack closed. I think I paid around $40 (instead of $100+) and it is awesome. I have used it for repairing plastic as well as for soldering. The adjustable heat makes it so easy to repair plastic without destroying it. I also bought a bunch of replacement tips. A great investment.

The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / Re: Rhodes issue (with sound clip)
« on: June 25, 2019, 06:44:00 AM »
Yeah, there is no sound clip.
Maybe it's the damper (metal) clanking against the hammer "shank"?

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Wurly 112 Opinons.
« on: June 14, 2019, 06:25:37 AM »
Morelock's is still in business? Wow. I remember many years ago they told me they didn't have much left.

I got my 200A for only $50 because the amp was very flaky, and the seller felt bad about charging me that much!
I took it apart, and it had maybe 2 cold solder joints. I reflowed all of them, and it's been fine ever since, roughly 25 years now.

Oops, missed it! Sorry!

Other Keyboards & Software Synths / Re: CP80 upright storage
« on: June 08, 2019, 07:29:37 AM »
Use "bat repellent" to keep out mice,moths, etc. this is a a pouch of stuff that smells like peppermint, and is available in most hardware stores or home centers. If you can't find this, peppermint oil on cotton balls will work, but be careful the oil doesn't drip into any part of the piano.

I've never worked on one of these, but
I ALWAYS recommend trying the cheap and easy things first, and make a list of everything you have tried. Eliminate the possibilities, one by one. Probably the first thing I would do is clean,clean,clean. Disconnect from power first. Blow it out with an air compressor if you have one, (use a water trap if you can) one by one, carefully unplug all connectors, clean the contacts, and reconnect. Clean all controls with contact cleaner, but remember, these cleaners can craze or melt plastic, so be careful and wear eye protection when spraying! I once had some cleaner bounce back into my right eye, it was not fun.

I doubt it is the output transistors, or else you wouldn't hear anything from the amp.

No, the older keyboard is digital and is sampled. I don't remember the model number, but it has the same "brains" and LCD screen of the then several thousand dollar home Clavinova, but it is in a cheap, Casio like case with only 61 keys. (It does not run on batteries)  I midi it to better keyboards instead of using the toy like keyboard. I bought it almost at wholesale and it was still like $700. I will never part with this keyboard. It even has a Hohner ep, and has great orchestral instruments, synths, it is way more powerful than it should be for the price. I think retail was only $1,200 at the time. I will have to look at the model number and give an update.

You may be able to find certain parts at They do sell to anyone, but parts may be limited to just common parts, like keytops, bass strings, etc. Any piano tech should be able to get you a replacement bass string, but would need to send in the broken string to the factory for exact match.
Most Yamaha pianos and eps have used the same keytops for many years. I just had to order an octave for a client that had 2 keys damaged by "piano movers". The octave was around $15 plus shipping.

Did you have to make a cord to adapt to the 3 prong, or buy a premade 1/4" to 3 prong?

Not in the movie, but Elton did use ep's a lot in life. Even Honky Cat features a Rhodes.They only showed him playing a little bit of Daniel on an acoustic piano to demo for Dick James. Elton used Hohners, and at least one Wurli on early recordings. First version of Grey Seal, Lady Samantha, songs from Empty Sky. And of course Don't go Breaking my Heart starts with a Wurli. The re-recorded version for the movie soundtrack uses a poor digital Wurli.
Boo hiss, Giles Martin!

Alan, how did you connect the piano to this? It looks like input only uses a 3 prong DIN.

Luke, the 5w resistor in the headphone circuit is correct. Yes, that simulates the load of a speaker, and does connect in parallel.. I was saying that adding another resistor to attenuate the signal should be in series. You need a very high impedance resistor here, but not a 5w. I believe a 1/2 w is fine here.
If I remember correctly, a small cap is added between + and -  near the resistor you will be adding.

Does anyone here remember the value of the resistor used here? I think it's really high, like 50k, or even more.

Just so everyone knows, I closed the GoFundMe. She is getting on her feet again. Her job is starting to give her more hours, things are looking up.

Thanks again to all who have donated!

I have learned that the second Empty Sky album cover, with the Sphinx like drawing was done for the USA MCA LP release in the '70's. I remember having the choice when I bought the LP, but I chose the original cover, so my LP was an import.

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Wurly 112 Opinons.
« on: June 04, 2019, 07:39:00 PM »
Then spending the money to buy the reeds would end up costing next to nothing in the long run since the piano was free. I once saved a 120 from the land fill and ended up selling it after fixing.
You may never see another 112. I haven't seen one in over 40 years!

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Wurly 112 Opinons.
« on: June 04, 2019, 05:01:52 PM »
112's are getting harder to find. You could wait a lifetime for a donor to get reeds from.
I would spend the money to get the reeds. You will have a gem when done, and you can always sell the piano all fixed up if you want a more modern version. It will retain its value.
Did you pay a lot for the piano?

I have the P255 which has more sounds, but the Wurlitzer sample is HORRIBLE. I can't figure out why, I have a cheaper (and older) Yamaha keyboard that has a real decent Wurlitzer....

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Wurly 112 Opinons.
« on: June 03, 2019, 02:25:19 PM »
Keep it! Fix it! When u eventually get the itch to get a 200 series piano, u can sell the 112, but I personally would keep it. I believe VV is selling new reeds to fit the 112?
I used to play a 112 in high school, but I've never owned one. Do u have the pedal?

I went to see Rocketman, the other day, and although it did have some good bits, a lot of it was made up B.S., and it is NOT a biopic like Bohemian Rhapsody.

No major spoilers, but I do want to say the way they have Elton come up with his last name is FALSE.

He took Elton from Elton Dean, the sax player, and John from "Long John" Baldrey, the lead singer of the band Elton was in. They got 1/2 right in the movie. There is no mention of John Baldrey, probably for legal reasons.

Elton and Bernie met at least 1 year if not 2 years before shown in the movie. 1969 is incorrect.

The Elton John album was NOT his first album. It was the first to get popular, but he recorded and released Empty Sky before that, plus several sessions when he recorded songs like Lady Samantha, It's Me That you Need, Just like Strange Rain, Rock and Roll Madonna, and believe it or not, MANY cover songs. This stuff was eventually released, but the cover songs are hard to find. At least they did briefly show the Empty Sky LP cover in the movie. This album had 2 different covers, I don't remember which was the original UK cover, but they show the more common one of Elton sitting at a piano (drawing)

There is no mention of Davey, Dee, Nigel, Caleb Quaye, Roger Pope, Ray Cooper or any other band members. There are 3 guys in the background that slightly resemble Davey, Dee and Nigel in a few scenes.

There are other things I have issues with, but don't want to give away too much.

I would appreciate anyone else's take if you've seen this movie too. (Pun intended)

The thump sounds like another issue,  possibly related to the vibrato circuit.

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