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The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Parts. Are they available?
« on: October 03, 2021, 11:19:55 AM »
Generic keytops will work but do not fit exactly like the originals. The color won't match perfectly either.
I'm sure there is at least one person on here that may have some originals to sell. Wurlitzer EP keys  (keytops) are smaller than most acoustic piano keys.

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Parts. Are they available?
« on: October 03, 2021, 11:13:56 AM »
No, the 4102 is not for this or any of the later models. Also, Schaff only sells to working technicians. The general public isn't even allowed to view their website.

As far as the broken white keytops go, you should see if anyone on here has any original replacements. Generics won't be a perfect size match, and replacing the all is a pain if you have never done it before. Generics will be larger and a lot of sanding and filing would be required. Unfortunately, I have sold all of my originals.

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Parts. Are they available?
« on: September 30, 2021, 12:18:57 PM »
You need to heat the hammer tips at the base with a soldering iron to loosen the glue.  Heat, wiggle, heat, wiggle.

New tips can be glued in with titebond
Do not attempt to cover the worn hammers with felt or leather, just replace them through VV.

Other Keyboards & Software Synths / Re: Help identifying a Manzarek keyboard
« on: September 29, 2021, 06:20:27 AM »
Nope- I just listened to both and I only hear a Hammond on both.

Other Keyboards & Software Synths / Re: Help identifying a Manzarek keyboard
« on: September 29, 2021, 06:11:04 AM »
I'm pretty sure he used his Gibson G101 on Texas Radio and the Big Beat. I have to listen to Hyacinth House again, I barely remember it.

Did you try cleaning the contacts under the strips with a quip and rubbing alcohol?

Other Keyboards & Software Synths / Re: Seiko DS-202 with DS-310
« on: September 11, 2021, 09:38:11 AM »
What is it? I've never heard of a seiko keyboard

Just adjust the strike line of the reed bar. It should be a simple fix.

Be careful tuning that! They are very difficult to tune and very easy to break strings. If you ever break a bass string do NOT throw it out. You will need the old one to have a duplicate made.

That piano is very inharmonic. The bass especially is difficult to tune! You need to tune bass notes FLATTER than you expect, don't make them sharp or they may break. $$$ to replace bass strings.

The hammer and damper both appear to be working. It sounds like either loose screws or loose glue joint(s) on some part on that key. A loose hammer head or hammer flange screw are the first 2 things I would check. I do not see the damper falling down right away. It seems to be staying up.

I really think it's cold solder joints. They are not always obvious from visual inspection.
Careful resolder the amp board. Don't do this if you aren't sure what to do. In that case, find a local tech.

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Wurlitzer 200A microphonic
« on: June 13, 2021, 10:57:10 AM »
Thanks! Glad you found the problem.

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: WTB Wurli 140B bench
« on: June 11, 2021, 06:09:05 AM »
That is going to be tough to find. I've only seen ONE in the last 45 years. Is it to complete your piano, or to actually use? They arent the sturdiest benches for adults. But you probably know that! Lol

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Wurlitzer 200A microphonic
« on: June 08, 2021, 03:43:30 PM »
No, it is not normal. Double and triple check every Eb damper. It is very likely one is not seating properly. Sometimes the felt gets crusty and squeezing the felt with needle nose pliers can help.

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: First Wurli and First post
« on: June 05, 2021, 12:45:54 PM »
Usually, letoff too close causes the hammer to block against the reed, and also increases the chance of reed breakage.

If a hammer lets off too early, you have to hit the key harder which can cause the hammer to double strike or " bobble" . Most unserviced Wurlitzers that I have encountered over the years are letting off too early.

You also need to check key dip to be sure nothing is impeding the key travel. (Compare to a properly working neighboring key) Extremely shallow dip can cause double striking as well, extreme dip can cause hammer blocking.

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: First Wurli and First post
« on: June 03, 2021, 01:37:19 PM »
Double striking can be a letoff issue, yes. I mailed your tool today!  ;)

DUH, right! What was I thinking?🤪

I was thinking of "non A" models, without the preamp. I'm not sure if this changes what I recommended to try or not.

I don't think so since you measure the voltage right where the wires attach. If you are super careful, you can disconnect the + wire from the reed bar and measure, but watch out for shorting it or getting zapped! You can disconnect it with the power off and use electrical tape to tape it to your can just leave the ground wire where it is. This will give you a reading with no load.

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Wurli sighting in a new Lowe's ad!
« on: May 19, 2021, 07:47:37 PM »
The new Lowe's ad regarding giving military discounts shows a 140 or 145 that is 1/2 painted, and has no sustain pedal. It's funny how they painted the piano but not the legs. There are 2 knobs on the left cheek block, so it's not a 120 or earlier. Silly place to pile books and ukuleles.....


Before you replace anything, have you reflowed solder? These amps are famous for cold solder joints...

If changing electrolytic caps, be sure you note the polarity, and put the new ones in the right way.
The black stripe running down the side of can caps indicates polarity.

I'm 90% sure wv35 means "working volts-35"

I wouldn't use a 9v battery to do the test, a 1.5 V is more than sufficient and shouldn't harm the speaker.
For anyone that doesn't know, you can test polarity of an unmarked speaker with a battery. This test also tells you if the speaker is working or fried.. If the cone moves outward with the battery connected, the pos end of the battery is connected to the + terminal. If the cone moves inward, it is reverse phase.  If it doesn't move at all with a good battery, the voice coil is likely fried.

This is useful for correctly phasing mismatched speakers.

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: 120 model, not far off
« on: April 03, 2021, 08:33:53 AM »
Yes, I am shipping the tool today.

There is no line out mod for a 120 that I'm aware of. You can make an Aux out, but not line out. There is a difference.
The present outputs are too "hot" to connect to an external amp. VV sells (or used to sell) a small box that connects to your present output to make an Aux out. I know you can DYI with a resistor and a cap, but I don't remember the values. The resistor will be a big one, and I think a 5 watt.

You shouldn't try to connect to an external amp at least until the "death cap" is removed...

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: 120 model, not far off
« on: April 01, 2021, 12:50:08 PM »
The death cap is connected between the AC jack and the chassis ground. DO NOT bridge it! Cut it right out.

A shorted cap is bridged and is a shock/ and possible fire hazard

If you want a softer tone, softer hammer tips may be the next step.

I don't know how your carpentry skills are, but about 40 years ago, I bartered for a suitcase 73 w/no base. I built a box out of 1 x 12 shelving. I did tolex that, and I made front and back pieces out of plywood and covered them with speaker grill cloth. The pedal mounted onto the bottom, and I drilled a hole in the top for the pedal rod. I did have the original power supply for the preamp (but no amp)
I don't think that cost very much to build and it looked great!

The only comment I have is that I personally would just paint the plywood black. I think putting Tolex on it may be a waste of time and money. I've never owned an 88, so I can't help with the flange locations.

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: 200a cheap amp replacement
« on: February 25, 2021, 02:15:27 PM »
Don't forget that part of the uniqueness of the original Wurlitzer amp is the roughly 150vdc that it creates for the reed bar. A generic amp will not do this. The Wurli is not passive like a Rhodes.

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Wurlitzer picking up radio stations
« on: February 19, 2021, 02:09:58 PM »
More likely the carbon in the old one was just worn out. You are lucky that you found it fairly quickly.
I had a Wurli with a worn vol pot once and it caused a loud hum at any volume.
I went crazy replacing parts....

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