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Parts, Service, Maintenance & Repairs / damper kiss
« on: March 11, 2007, 03:55:33 PM »
OK Sorry, I may have been referring to a different damper problem.I was talking about the dampers making a noise as they pull away from the tines (or strings) in a piano.I think you mean when they come back into position to quiet the tines? I guess I read it wrong.
Steve O

The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / rhodes with sticking leys
« on: March 11, 2007, 03:03:24 PM »
To Hrees: I don't really understand what you mean about "taking the higher ground" with my posts.I am a professional Rhodes, Wurlitzer AND acoustic piano tuner-tech and I have 30 years experience.I'm not claiming to be smarter than other people, I am just stating the truth regarding my many years of experience with working on these keyboards.I do this for a living,not as a hobby.

You and I have corresponded regarding Wurlis before.

There was nothing misleading about my post regarding damper kiss.It is a normal (although somewhat annoying) sound that occurs in pianos and electric pianos, and I and several others have tried many things to remove this sound with little or no luck.

If someone took the screws out of this persons Rhodes case,and/or if the case was built from scratch, then yes, this would explain why the white key fronts are rubbing on the front of the case.This is not a COMMON situation with a Rhodes however.

Steve O

The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / sticking keys
« on: March 10, 2007, 01:01:42 PM »
Unfortunately,the uneven hammer line is somewhat normal in a Rhodes-there isn't that much you can do about it.The bridle straps pull down the dampers only in a Rhodes.

As far as Hrees talking about the keys rubbing on the front,I do not see how that is possible in a Rhodes unless someone removed the screws that hold everything in place and the piano is flopping around inside the case.It still would be difficult even then.This problem is more common with GRAND pianos,because the action can be moved around a little.

Remember,there are very few adjustments available in the action of a Rhodes.It is not like a conventional piano or even a wurli where you have several screw adjustments to play with. On the hammers that are uneven,you just basically need to be sure that those keys work properly,and adjust the escapment accordingly.(The distance between the hammer tip and the tine after a key is played and the key is still held down)Also be sure the key dip is ok.(About 3/8")

Just in case you are wondering, I am a piano technician with 30 years experience with Rhodes,Wurlis and acoustic pianos.

Steve O

The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / sticking keys after moving
« on: March 10, 2007, 09:36:43 AM »
Hi there, When Troubleshooting any problem, start with the EASIEST things to try first then progress to the more difficult things if the problem is not solved yet.

I seriously doubt that the piano needs to be repositioned inside the case.

This is what I would do:

1: Loosen the screws that hold the harp down,then remove the name rail screws.(Keep a cup or something nearbly to put the screws in.

2: Remove the name rail,unplugging the wire from the harp, and then lift the harp.(It should stay up)

3: Take a PENCIL and Number the keys,from left to right, # 1-73,somewhere on the bare wood.

4: Carefully remove the keys,being careful not to disturb the white felt and paper punchings (washers) under the middle of the keys, and the green ones at the fronts of the keys.DO NOT remove or lose these! These are what level the keys and it's a pain to relevel them,especially if you have never done it before.

5: If there is ANY evidence that mice have been inside, wear gloves and a mask before doing more! Wash your hands right away if you see mouse droppings! If there are mouse droppings, you will need to carefully clean them out.This is common, don't worry. about the piano being ruined, just be extra cautious of germs.

6: CAREFULLY!!!! Vacuum out the piano,again be extra extra careful with the felt and paper punchings (washers)

7: Clean the keys with windex and a rag, lightly sand any rough spots in the wood with fine sandpaper.

8: Put some keys back in (especially keys that were sticking) and see if the problem went away. If not, those key bushings may need easing. (Sqeezing of the red felt inside the holes for the front and center pins) Needle nose or duck bill pliers will work for easing-the actual piano tool for this costs about $45.

This should solve your problems.If not tell me what happened and we'll take it from there.

Steve O

Parts, Service, Maintenance & Repairs / Damper kiss
« on: March 08, 2007, 08:18:01 AM »

As a pro piano tech, I have to tell you that damper kiss is a problem in grand pianos as well as electric pianos.This has come up at PTG meetings many times, and NOBODY seems to know how to eliminate it .(I have 30 yrs exp.,and I am one of the youngest members)

I chalk it up to a normal sound that a (partialy) mechanical piano makes.
I once had a customer complain about the "thud" sound of her hammers hitting the strings on an upright piano-there is no way to remove this sound,it's just part of the mechnical beast.If it weren't there, it would sound fake-like a digital piano.. :)

Steve O

Parts, Service, Maintenance & Repairs / Key Pedestal Felts
« on: March 08, 2007, 08:10:38 AM »
No, The pedestal felts  reduce NOISE between the wood and plastic parts.I would bet the keys that are missing the felt make clacking noises.Also, the pedestal bump mod lightens the action-I recommend doing this if you haven't .Later models already have it done so check yours first. Vintage Vibe sells the kit. :)  
Steve  O

Buying / where can i buy a fender rhodes piano bass???
« on: March 07, 2007, 07:19:58 PM »
There was a key bass on Ebay last week-did you bid on it?
I have found that it is far cheaper to buy a whole piano-the lowest 32 keys are the same as a key bass.

I TURNED DOWN the chance to buy a new old stock Key bass in a music store for only $125.00 once about 8 years ago because I already own one!!! How stupid I was !!!!! :D

Steve O

Preamps, Modifications & Upgrades / clacking noise in hammers
« on: March 07, 2007, 02:48:32 PM »

This is my first posting, I hope I don't ramble on too much.

 I am a professional piano technician and maybe I can shed some light on the hammer clacking noise.I just worked on a piano today (acoustic) that had the same problem.Most of the time, this problem is caused by loose hammer flange screws-the screw that holds the hammer in place. If your Rhodes has the part wood, part plastic hammers, then I assume it is like mine, which has these seperate hammer flanges and screws. If so, (carefully) tighten all 73 or 88 of these screws, being careful not to bend the dampers.You will need a fairly long phillips head screwdriver to do this. (#2 tip)

If your Rhodes is a newer model,then it most lkely has the all plastic hammers that clip together in a plastic flange assembly-this would not have these screws,although the whole assembly is held in place by some screws.

Sometimes, these clacking noises are caused by other things, however this is something fairly easy to look for. When troubleshooting any kind of a problem, always try the easiest things first and eliminate all of the possibilities. :D

Steve O

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