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Other Keyboards & Software Synths / Re: Columbia Elepian Restoration
« on: November 27, 2015, 09:01:51 AM »
Then I cleaned all the keys and keybed. The keys system is very simple, no need to remember where you placed the key originally.







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Other Keyboards & Software Synths / Re: Columbia Elepian Restoration
« on: November 27, 2015, 09:00:12 AM »
Look a the control


First thing, I adjusted the ''timbre'' because it was almost just overtone. I regain a nice bassy ''rhodish'' tone. It's fun to see the ''hybrid'' system of Reeds/pickups (Wurly Reeds with Rhodes style pickups). So i'm not too lost for the adjustment.


The fist screw on top is for pickups distance, the one just below is for ''timbre'' adjustment (overtone or fondamental). Its really easy and fast to set, I found it more easy than the Rhodes.


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Other Keyboards & Software Synths / Columbia Elepian Restoration
« on: November 27, 2015, 08:59:16 AM »
Hi,
I just been lucky and find out a nice Columbia Elepian in the Montreal area. Traded against a barely playable, but complete Rhodes Mark II 1981 (Hell rusty, if you see my topics 2 or 3 months ago)
I decided to put some pictures here since there are barely no information on the net.

First of all, here's the Rhodes (Dressed like a Mark I)


Now here's the Elepian when it arrive



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The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / Re: Factory or Mod?
« on: September 21, 2015, 02:36:31 PM »
fota : Do you have felt on the bottom of your hammer?
My 77 isn't moded, no felt on keys, but on the bottom of the hammer!

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Nice eighty eight! I got a similar one, with the preamp!
I see a MPC1000, do you produce hiphop?

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Hi, just to keep you posted.
The restoration is still happening, here what I did last week :

-Finished blasting all the tines/tonebars
-Changed all the wood screw/washer that hold the tonebars
-Changed all the grommets (Mcmaster style)
-Revoicing/tuning
-Remake the Electronic
-Sustain pedal test (work great, very smooth and easy)

I'm very surprised with the sound, its pretty good!
Now, i have less than 10 tines that still had problems (vibrating strangely, less sustain..)

next step, as soon as i receive them, i'll change all hammer tips, the majority of the mid/upper register is very badly damaged. I also make a custom faceplate sticker that will be printed soon, to replace imitate the ''MARK II'' design, but more personal.

I play it trough my suitcase preamp (early 1977) then trough a Ibanez UE-405 (the stereo chorus is just amazing)







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Wow, that exactly what the tine do, and i got some that touch the other too!
Thanks a lot for your video

Xavier

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Thanks!

I'm also surprised about the sound of the tines, do you see the position of the tuning spring across the tine? Weird positionning, because in the original position, i was getting almost 2-3 semi-tone lower the target note

That's exactly what i'm gonna do, play it until tine breaks! I have to find a crazy deal on tines, i don't have big budget for this piano!

Xavier

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Here's a little video to show you how it sounds! (Don't look at my playing, i'm not a really good keyboard player)
You can hear some of the bass oscillating!

I just had it ajusted pretty quick, still works to do!


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yes, its not the miracle mod, its factory bump on key pedestals!

Personnally, i really like the feel, and strangly its very different from my first Rhodes i had 6 years ago (MKI from 1980, maybe MKII with MKI hardware) that has the bump, but the feeling was heavy!

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Thanks David,

originally, this Rhodes had two springs on lower tonebars, I didn't put double back, but if you tells me that could help out the tine oscillation, i'll try it for shure! Thanks!!

My hammer tips are badly worn on the middle/upper register, i'm sure changing them will help. I got a set in order right now!

This restoration makes me want to add the miracle mod on my Suitcase 88 from 1977, i really like the light touch of the later piano!

Thanks a lot for this help!


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Yesterday I installed the 30 last tonebars/tines, tuned them and I finally could play this thing!
It sound better than expected, but had a lot of issues.. this will increase my skills level for shure!

Here some issues I have, and I know that the problem is probably 95% due to the bad corrosion on the tines
-5 or 6 bass tines are oscillating (kind of tremolo), I tried to adjust the distance between the tine and the pickups to minimize as possible the trouble
-Tines sound more dull on the middle/upper register
-Less substain on higher notes (I always struggle on these)

The middle register is pretty good, but the overall keyboard have a lack of sustain compared to my other Rhodes. 2 dead pickups, 1 broken tine.. its not bad!
Btw, i didn't removed the rust on the pickup, it will be my next step.

Do you think that rust on pickup affect the sound?






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Luckily, the majority of the pickups works, maybe 1 or 2 with less volumes
I don't know why everybody say that the ''White tape'' pickups have tendency of breaking more often then the other (clear tape), its my second Rhodes with white tape, never had trouble with them.

This is a particular exemple of really rusty hardware, but i don't know why, the pickups wires don't seems so affected by the overall rust, i must say that they are pretty clean (pickup wire), but the pickup tips are so corroded, non-sens!


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Thanks for the reply!

I perfectly aware that the tines gonna break one time or another, but i take this as a test bench, to test different setting. Parting out isn't an option, in Montreal there's not a big demand for part, this one stay on craigslist for months whitout any big interrest, and parts are sold really cheap! I think people are watching for full working piano.. and Ebay, i don't want to ship anything.

Thanks for the info for the harp bracket, I blasted them and reinstalled.

I'll continu with my process, yesterday I installed half of the tonebars/tines with new hardware, I've been able to ''derust'' the tuning springs, then I kind of ''tune it'' and it play! Some bass note are oscillating very strangly as mentionned, its was foreseeable. I'm surprised that this piano is ''playable'' without any big part remplacement! Here some picture of the weird tuning, spring are waaaay to far across the tine and it make less substain (I was expecting that)







Now i'm thinking about shifting the tines 1 or 2 semi-tone lower, to be able to raise the spring a little bit.
As i say, I'm not working on a ''working Rhodes'', i'm bench testing things!

Thanks!

 


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Thanks for your replies!!

I don't want to invest that much cash on this, but I have time and good motivation!
Parting out this Rhodes isn't an option for me, i don't wan't to do that, this is a very complete piano and I don't wan't to make money over it, i'm just a Rhodes lover i think!

I'll continu my process, last week end I cleaned the bottom case, scrubbed the guide pins (That was badly rusted), changed the tine/tonebars hardware, cleaned all the keys. This week i'll be blasting all the tines/tonebars (It's free, I make this a my job) and after that, this will be the ultimate test.

My only concern is that the tuning springs can't move, I have to find a product that could remove the rust between the tine and tuning spring.

Thanks also for the ebay link, but i'm in canada and I can't see the auction.

Last question, is there a structural utility of the ''Crossbrace'' on the harp between the tines/tonebars and pickup section? I remove the 2, and I don't see any structural weakness. Maybe this is when we move the piano?

Here's picture of the process :







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Before and after glass shot :


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Thanks for the reply, i'll try to Glass shot every tines/tonebars, and yes, i'll post audio demo.
I know these tines will be fragile, but i'm not an heavy player, in 7 years, I only broke 1 tine on the 4 pianos I owned.

Right now, almost every tines is like that, except the extreme bass. All the pickups works (Lucky me) and with the rust, its waaay out of tune, and the harmonics are detunes too.

The touch is light and the wood is OK.

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I just tried Glass Bead, really effective, and we can now see the damage on the tine!!




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Hi, I just buy my second Rhodes piano as a restoration project (My first being a nice Rhodes Mark I 88 Suitcase 1977). A pretty rought Rhodes Mark II 73 from 1981 payed not that much. There's a significant amount of rust on the tines, and the tuning springs are stuck in that rust (I see other topics, but I don't if anyone see this amount of rust?)
I would like to know if there's a good product that can eliminate the majority of the rust, I can do the rest by hand.
I don't want a perfect Rhodes, just to be in tune and this will be my experimentation Rhodes to test different setup, no recording or live playing. surprisingly, the wood parts aren't affected.
here are some picture :


Look pretty good from the outside, no cleaning done yet


Sooo rusty, this been sitting in a wet basement, maybe condensation under the plastic cover.


Tuning spring stuck in rust

Thanks for further help!

Téhu




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Preamps, Modifications & Upgrades / Re: Dyno preamp copy
« on: June 02, 2015, 11:00:09 AM »
Thanks, I now use a nice Ibanez UE-405 with a true steroe analog chorus, make my rhodes sound like heaven!

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The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / Re: 3D model of my Rhodes
« on: January 20, 2015, 11:55:36 AM »
Nice work!!

Are you open to share the model?
I made one with Solidworks 4 years ago, but i lost it ;(

Thanks!

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The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / Post your Rhodes pics and its story
« on: September 18, 2009, 09:00:26 AM »
a Homemade Dyno-ProEQ

I did'nt have concentric knob, so I put it like this!

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The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / Post your Rhodes pics and its story
« on: August 19, 2009, 08:27:47 AM »
Wow!
Amazing setup!

My ''lil'' mark 1 =P
(And a cousin, a Pianet T)





A ''mod'' Fender Rhodes logo, i put my name on it, just for fun
(made with Soldworks 2009)

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The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / pitch increase in lower octaves
« on: May 26, 2009, 07:45:23 AM »
i got the same problem with one lower key of my stage 73, the tine was to close to the pick up, and it changed the pitch during substaining. I change the pick-up position, and the sound remain equal

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i'm sure its not a Hohner Pianet Keyboard (T), it seem to be like a ''culumbia elepian'' or only a RMI electra Piano (pretty sure, just check the side shape, and the white label on the back, and the ''doubled feet'')

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Preamps, Modifications & Upgrades / UA 610 Pre amp?
« on: December 17, 2008, 07:27:05 AM »
I got a UA La-610
And it sound amazing with a rhodes!
with a little compression, it give a really big sound. i'll try to post some audio files

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try to find a Hammond M3 model, little spinet (they go very cheap)
They got the waterfall keys, just like the B3

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Other Keyboards & Software Synths / Lorenzo E Piano
« on: September 25, 2008, 07:28:32 AM »
Nice find!
That's the kind of thing i dig for 5bucks!
haha

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What's all the knob on the top?
It's not original?

What purpose they have?

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