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The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Wurlitzer replacement amplifiers
« on: June 08, 2018, 05:55:18 AM »
I’m eagerly awaiting that one!

Replace replace replace! You won't look back!

Whoops double post


It is a curious sensation to feel that one's fingers are glued to a piece of metal; tzzzzzzzz.

My only mod was to install a switch to disconnect the speakers so that I can play through an amp and hear everything just from the amp.

I'm a massive fan of fx (which you can see in the second photo). The wurli is an ambient pad machine when it wants to be. It all goes through a Cornell Romany amp which can easily cope with all the outboard and every nuance of the wurli and all the delays comes through crystal clear.

You didn’t need to put that hole in there. Now you’ve ruined an early 200 lid. All you needed to do was stick a dummy plug into the Headphone out.  The headphone jack is a shorting jack that, when something is inserted, it cuts out the speakers and sends the signal through a dummy 8 ohm 5watt resistor, leaving the Aux out unaffected.

If you flip reed number 1 with pyramid up and play it hard, you’ll hear the clank of the Reed on the damper arm or even the pickup or maybe the shield. I presume they did this for the first 20 for two reasons; one, because all those reeds are very close in shape and they wanted to keep the same tone and two, that problem goes away by then.

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Wurlitzer 200A - 3D model
« on: April 29, 2018, 08:33:47 PM »
Yea I measure them with a CMM. Which models do you want? I may not want to give out certain ones 😜

the amp out signal goes to the headphone jack first then to the speakers. It should be a hot signal like you described but shouldn’t be noisy. Sounds like someone may have farted around inside there. Check the wiring first. If the speakers are clean the aux out should definitely be clean.

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Lubrication: do's and dont's
« on: April 22, 2018, 02:06:53 PM »
Home Cheapo and Blowes have it, I believe.  I'm not sure if it's good or not.

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Cleaning a Wurly lid vs repainting
« on: April 20, 2018, 11:09:33 PM »
Yeah I use simple green with a toothbrush. Sounds like something you would do in jail but it works really well. Toothbrush can really get all the little grooves clean.

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Signal too hot for pedals
« on: April 16, 2018, 08:32:07 PM »
Your 206 chop needs only a few components for aux out. All you need is like 2 resistors, shielded cable, and a 1/4” jack of course. The 206A is a different story.

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Signal too hot for pedals
« on: April 11, 2018, 10:41:25 AM »
Just use the Aux out and not the Headphone out

I use a light bulb limiter and 25W bulb to troubleshoot. Saves me many many fuses! I also just replace the pigtail fuses with inline fuse holders.

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Strange reed behaviour.
« on: April 05, 2018, 08:12:29 PM »
So your comment about the “tiniest dip” is key here.  It may not be all that is going on,  but is related.  You either have too much felt on the edge of the lid where it rests on the back of the keys (unlikely as this is probably original) or those two gigundo bolts sticking out of the reedbars need adjusted (more likely). Raising them will raise the lid in a manner that should help you.  Report back on your findings. There may be more adjustment necessary.

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Strange reed behaviour.
« on: April 05, 2018, 07:28:23 AM »
There could be one of many things going on here. Take off the newly added shield and put the lid back on. Does it still happen? Report back and i'll tell you what to check next.

Could be the shield you added is slightly out of position and the damper is being affected by it when the lid presses on it, or it could be a damper regulation issue, or both, or something else really cool that I don't know about yet.

Other Keyboards & Software Synths / Re: Vako Orchestron
« on: March 24, 2018, 08:01:56 AM »
I know of one that will be for sale real soon (days) if anyone is interested. Looks like the model C. These apparently sell for thousands.

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Wurlitzer 200A - 3D model
« on: February 26, 2018, 01:41:42 PM »
Ok, so I looked at the VV and Ken Rich sites, and those parts are $30 and $45 respectively, plus shipping.
You or someone else could make these with a 3D printer and sell them for less. I certainly wouldn't  pay $30-$45 plus shipping if I needed one- I'd make something first- and I'm pretty sure I did make one once out of an L bracket for a 120.

The printer I used prints plastic that is sort of brittle, so I wouldn't recommend using that material. There are other softer materials (even castable materials! hmmm...) that 3D printers can use.

I've use the VV ones and they work great. I've see all sorts of gizmos and gadgets that have been used in lieu of that piece but IMHO none work as well as the original or their replacements. Have yet to use the Ken Rich one; they look completely CNC machined.

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Wurlitzer 200A - 3D model
« on: February 21, 2018, 01:26:28 PM »
You could sell that outer cable part that you made (the piece that goes on the outside of the pedal cable and touches the bottom of the piano)  you can not get this part anywhere.... 206's did not have this part, so people who chop them need this.

Vintage vibe and Ken Rich actually make this part, and have been for some time now. The VV ones are cast like the originals and the Ken Rich ones look totally CNC machined.

She is recording through the internal speakers. You can hear the hammer-hitting-the-reed harmonics that the pickups don't pick up, specifically at 52-54 seconds of that video. That being said, who knows what this thing sounded like through the line-out? I think it was her speakers that gave her that buttery tone more-so than the amp. I will say I notice a different between old/worn speakers and new reproductions speakers.  I'm happy that there are new amplifiers these days that are more trust-worthy than the originals. If anything, I think the new amplifiers bring out the full sonic capability of the reeds/pickups more-so than the originals.

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Is that original ?
« on: February 04, 2018, 10:41:26 PM »
I checked the resistance between the reed bar and the ground... 0 ! The reed bar is grounded, is that normal ??

Your multimeter should read "0L" not "0"

You have a short in the reedbar somewhere.  Isolate whether it's left or right then go from there.

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Wurlitzer 200A - 3D model
« on: February 01, 2018, 05:35:20 PM »
Bass reedbar partially complete.

Announcements / Re: New Logo
« on: January 17, 2018, 04:35:28 PM »
Yeah love the logo!  ;D


The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Upper octave is quieter than the rest
« on: January 10, 2018, 10:01:35 AM »
Steel melts at about 2500°F and my soldering iron only goes up to about 800°F. Bending a little bit should work-harden the reeds. Too much and it'll weaken the reeds.

If you do this all day every day, then it's easy stuff. If you don't, it's a waste of your time unless you're willing to learn and have the angst to do so. I'd have no idea where to start. I'd love to be that knowledgeable about this stuff, but i'm not.  I'd like to see the type of amplifier this person can come up with for a wurlitzer.

I've tried replacing the usual suspect components, but don't have the patience to fiddle fart around with it all day when I could be doing mechanical adjustments. It takes alot of time unsoldering, cleaning, and resoldering components in the cramped workspace. The action could be beautiful, but nothing is worse than some hum.

Ah...thought so....those avocado lids are nice...

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Green pieces above some reeds?
« on: January 02, 2018, 10:06:45 PM »
I had them on a recent 206A, and Paleophone can verify! And they looked like the day they were installed. No corrosion at all. Zinc plating completely in tact.

Here's a family gathering 206, 200A, 214 :)

Just curious...what color is that 214 lid?

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Upper octave is quieter than the rest
« on: December 30, 2017, 09:42:39 PM »
I've never seen a bent reed in a Wurlitzer in 40 years.

Here is almost a full treble reedbars' worth of bent reeds over the next 10 seconds!!

The Wurlitzer Electric Piano / Re: Upper octave is quieter than the rest
« on: December 29, 2017, 07:37:25 PM »
9 times out of 10 the weak treble notes are due to bent reeds. The reeds in this section are so short they permanently deform sooner than anywhere else on the keyboard. Take a peak at the reeds in this section.  Are they straight (reed straight and almost even with pickup) or are they bent (reed above pickup with noticeable bend)? What you want is a straight reed that is (when at rest) in the same plane as the top of the pickup. This is the first step before loosening any screws or adjusting letoff or anything.

Hey you did this on the organ forum too!

Parts, Service, Maintenance & Repairs / Re: Adhesive
« on: December 13, 2017, 09:47:39 AM »
I've used Goop glue, 3M yellow super weatherstrip and gasket adhesive, and even a hot glue gun for small spots. I like the 3M the best.

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