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The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / Re: MK 1 Light Action vs Heavy Action?
« on: September 23, 2019, 05:03:13 AM »
I think it was around 78 they did start putting the factory bumps in, my 79 has them.

The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / Re: MK 1 Light Action vs Heavy Action?
« on: September 20, 2019, 02:38:29 AM »
Haha, your reply made me giggle sean.

I've got a 79 Mk1 and I love its light action compared to earlier ones (without the key pedestal bumps) because the early ones are slower/heavier and more sluggish.

I did a bump mod for a friend on his 77, and even after that I still preferred my 79.

I've no idea how to purposefully make it heavier other than what sean has already suggested, but if you are after that, perhaps a 75-77 Mk1 with or without the bump mod would give you a heavier action?

The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / Re: Passive Electronics Question...
« on: August 21, 2019, 02:21:52 AM »
Thanks for the info and insight shmuelyosef,

Once I've got everything actually working, and got it to sound how I want, I'm keeping my options open as to then passive electronics against wired pre-amps and things, and the options of re-wiring. I want something that sounds good, gives a good output without noise, and something reliable when humping it about. I don't plan on using for too many gigs/outings, but when I do I don't want to have to 'fettle' it before hand!

The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / Re: Passive Electronics Question...
« on: August 11, 2019, 01:27:54 PM »
You must have been reading my mind, just picked up a 2nd hand Boss OD-3 to try through it!

The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / Re: Passive Electronics Question...
« on: August 05, 2019, 02:57:38 AM »
Also, just to update, I've re-soldered back as per the diagrams, and its now working again!

Not sure how long its going to last, but I've plans for either a new replacement passive set or potentially a tube pre-amp kit of some description.

The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / Re: Passive Electronics Question...
« on: August 04, 2019, 02:31:53 PM »
Hi Sean,

Thanks so much for such a swift reply, and your knowledge!

The diagrams are aberjillion percent helpful - Legend! Thanks so much!

The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / Passive Electronics Question...
« on: August 04, 2019, 08:00:51 AM »
My 79' Mk1 73 stage just keeps fightin' on me!

Ive now got all 73 notes working, 73 good pickups (at last)!
But now, my passive electronics have gone out. I tested my notes by bypassing that and going straight into the harp with a phono so I know its the rail board, plus there be a broken wire:

I'm pretty sure it should be attached to the pot its pointing at as it isn't long enough to attach to anything else really, and I quickly tried re-soldering it, but I didn't have a lot of time and was a struggle to get it to hold. I know I need to strip it back a bit, but am I thinking correctly in that it does live on that pot?

Thanks once again in advance!

The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / Re: Pickup Rewinding Question...
« on: July 19, 2019, 04:10:33 PM »
Replied! :)

The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / Re: Pickup Rewinding Question...
« on: July 18, 2019, 03:41:57 AM »
Hi Spradders,

Im in Norwich UK - I can rewind them for you if you want? If you have already bought replacements and still don't want them, I'd quite like the spare ones.

The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / Re: Pickup Rewinding Question...
« on: July 12, 2019, 03:01:39 AM »
Thanks for your kind words of advice pnoboy, I do really appreciate that. I've had lots of experience with soldering before, although I could still be better if I had less of a shaky hand.

I've already seen how quick you need to be given the plastic on the bobbins, so I will practice on some completely dead pickups first.

The wire I'm using is pickup wire (I'm re-winding from dead pickups where there is corrosion on the posts, or the coil winding start was broken), onto an empty pickup with better or no corrosion on the posts, so then I know it will have a good connection, and also I don't then need to count the revolutions as I'm re-winding!

The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / Re: Pickup Rewinding Question...
« on: July 11, 2019, 07:42:01 AM »
Super stuff, thanks so much!  8)

The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / Re: Pickup Rewinding Question...
« on: July 11, 2019, 03:00:29 AM »
Ah, excellent, thank you!

I had been reading articles/watching videos about the subject and was coming to the conclusion it could be because of the lacquer coating.

I was curious to see if the re-winding had worked before soldering the posts, so I was being a little impatient!

So, if solder the coil wire to the posts, I should then see resistance?

The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / Pickup Rewinding Question...
« on: July 10, 2019, 01:42:14 AM »
Hey folk,

I have successfully managed to rewind 3 of my dead pickups so far, using a little jig that I knocked up and my cordless drill. Works a treat, now I've got my technique of guiding and unwinding with my other hand.

However of the three I've done, none of them are showing any resistance on my meter at all, which is odd. (I think).

I've re-wound from a complete dead pickup to an empty pickup with good posts, so I didnt need to count the revolutions. I've only tied the wire onto the post from the coil winding start, and then at the end when I was done, I haven't soldered the posts yet. - Does this make a difference?

If not, is someone able to explain why, when I know I've got a complete re-wound pickup with it tied on each post, why I'm not getting any reading on my meter? - I mean none, not even a little bit. Help!!  :-\

Hmm, OK.

As the grommets are OK, and you've moved the pickups closer to improve the sound, you may need tine stabilsers to stop them from oscillating/wavering.

According to factory specs the pickups should be between 1.5mm & 3.1mm (approx) away from the end of the tine.

What are the tone bar grommets like? Could the metal of the screws/washers be rattling in the tonebar if the grommets are worn/perished? Would explain why you can hear it more at lower velocity strikes as the barking of harder strikes may mask it?

If there is any tine oscilation, this is usually because its too close to the pickup.

The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / Re: Pickup Wiring
« on: June 12, 2019, 02:15:06 AM »
Hey Dan! (Don't worry, I already follow your FB page, and a mutual friend Dan Burnett let me know about you recently!

I have read that you can sometimes bring them back, and this is going to be my first port of call. I'm quite handy, and as I've done all the other bits so far, I'm going to give this a go. There is definitely corrosion on the pickup terminals, but the rest of the coils looks OK on all of the dead ones so far, unless any corrosion is lurking under the top layer. If I get stuck, I'll give you a shout. Hope that's OK. I love learning to do and doing new things, so I'm quite looking forward to the challenge. (As I've enjoyed the challenge so far with both of these 73s, as they are my first EPs to service/repair).

All of the tape is peeling and although I know this isn't at all necessary at all to replace, I'm thinking of doing that too anyway. Whats your take on that?

I met Christian from EK on Friday funnily enough, as amazingly he is local to me, and he's currently waiting on a shipment from VV containing pickups as he currently doesn't have any in stock, so I've got him on backup to give me a shout as soon as they are! 

The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / Re: Pickup Wiring
« on: June 11, 2019, 02:29:18 AM »

19 pickups dead in total, which isn't as bad as I first thought.

I can get them £12 each from a guy in the UK, which makes quite a sum of £228, or do I rewind and repair the dead ones?

Whats the general consensus on this topic?

The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / Re: Pickup Wiring
« on: June 10, 2019, 04:54:10 AM »
Hi Sean,

Thank you so much for both of your replies, that info is invaluable, and I shall certainly be following it to diagnose my pickup issues.

Good to know the top end harp wiring is fine for both, I'll leave alone!

I shall report back when I've got them both singing again!

The Fender Rhodes Electric Piano / Pickup Wiring
« on: June 08, 2019, 12:21:15 PM »
Hey folks,
I'm a newbie here, and a newbie to the Rhodes, so I apologise in advance if the question I'm about to ask are obvious, and/or been covered before!
Quick back story:
I'm servicing/repairing/modding a 77' MK1 73 for a good friend if mine. Ive already done the bump mod, and replaced the hammer tips, and about to replace the tone bar screws and grommits in preparation for voicing and tuning.

Angwho, Ive wanted one of my own for so long, and having his to work on was unbearable knowing I'd have to give it back, so I bought one for myself!! Found a 79' Mk1 73 being sold by someone else I knew, and he was 100% with its state and condition, which isn't very good. With it being a 79' it has the factory bumps on the key pedestals which is great. Ive replaced the damper felts as they were shot, and Ive got a tone bar screw and grommit kit ready for this one too. The only thing with this one is, is there are more dead pickups than good ones. I can't see any visible breaks in the pickup wiring, but I'm going to re-wire it anyway.

My question is related to the red wire at the top end of the harp and where it connects, as there is a difference in the 77 Im doing for my mate, and my 79, and I'm not sure which one is right, or if they both are. Here are the pics:

His 77' mk1:

My 79' mk1:

My other question is, when measuring the resistance of each pickup, (probe of meter on each side of one pickup) what number should I expect to see?

There are differences all over the place on mine, consistant on my mates (which I'd expect as his pickups are sounding fine). His read on average avout 0.50.

Ive done the screwdriver test on both pianos (his all pop) - although not very very loudly. Some of mine do, most don't, and the ones that do, some don't actually play when its plugged into an amp.

Help! (And many many thanks in advance)

Newbie Glen

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