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Offline Nathan Seder

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“Tink” sound when hitting key
« on: November 04, 2019, 06:03:48 PM »
Hello, I did a search to see if I could find an answer to this and couldn’t find anything so forgive me if I missed something. There’s a “tink” sort of rattly sound when I hit one of the keys on my 200a. The felt looks pretty grooved and worn down- i imagine that the felt has worn down to the point where the wood of the hammer tip is hitting the reed- does this sound correct? Should I get another tip and replace it, or is there another way to fix it, such as adding felt?

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Re: “Tink” sound when hitting key
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2019, 06:09:09 PM »
That possibly is it, I assume this is a high treble note? Hammer felt is not like felt you buy in a craft or fabric store. You may want to ask a local piano tuner for a stronger piece of felt for this, or you can try to replace it. You heat the glue joint to remove the hammer tip with a soldering iron.
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Re: “Tink” sound when hitting key
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2019, 10:04:57 PM »
I recommend the hammer tips Vintage Vibe sells.  Reasonably priced.  You can heat out the old glue.

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Re: “Tink” sound when hitting key
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2019, 08:21:21 AM »
What note is doing this?
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Re: “Tink” sound when hitting key
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2019, 09:51:46 AM »
Hi thank you all for your input. It is the F below middle c. Strangely enough the note itself sounds pretty good- maybe just a little bit lower in volume than it should be.

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Re: “Tink” sound when hitting key
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2019, 06:20:34 PM »
It would be almost impossible for a hammer that low to be worn down to the wood. Maybe the pickup is bent?
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Re: “Tink” sound when hitting key
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2019, 01:17:31 AM »
The pickup itself? I don’t think so- but I’ll check again. It doesn’t make the sound of the reed hitting the pickup when it’s not aligned correctly, if that’s what you mean- when it’s powered up the note rings, but you can also hear the “tink” and a little bit of rattle. The hammer tip does look quite worn down- the groove in it is very pronounced and blackened somewhat.

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Re: “Tink” sound when hitting key
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2019, 06:17:20 AM »
The hammer tip can not be worn down to the wood in this part of the piano. The blackened spot is not causing this. It is pretty normal for the hammer tips to look like that. Only the highest hammers can be worn down to the wood.

I did not mean the reed could be hitting the pickup. I meant that the pickup could be bent away from the reed in a way so that the volume could be lower. But that may not be it either.

Is this sound being amplified or do you only hear it when the volume is turned way down?
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Re: “Tink” sound when hitting key
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2019, 10:30:37 PM »
The sound is not being amplified- you can hear it very well when the amp is off and still a little bit when it’s on. I’ll post an audio file...

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Re: “Tink” sound when hitting key
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2019, 01:51:14 PM »
Well i didn't get to uploading a sound file, but i found out what the issue must have been. The lump of solder must have been loose...a few days ago it almost completely fell off. I will try reattaching it by heating up the reed with the soldering iron and then carefully placing the lump on the end. Hope it works!

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Re: “Tink” sound when hitting key
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2019, 03:45:42 PM »
This is actually quite common in that area of the piano. In order to get proper adhesion, you will end up melting the whole "pyramid" of solder which will then require reshaping. To prevent separation in the future, remove all solder from the end of the reed, file the area of the reed to receive the solder (to provide a surface for adhesion), and tin that area of the reed. THEN begin building and shaping a new solder pyramid.
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