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« Reply #510 on: March 13, 2019, 09:21:39 PM »
Welcome to the group. 
I've always liked the way that type of harp cover looks on the MK I pianos.
Nice to see Malcom again.
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« Reply #511 on: January 06, 2020, 06:37:10 AM »
Hey guys. Guess I'll hop in. Here it is

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« Reply #512 on: March 14, 2020, 12:59:48 AM »

 great pics!!

 and nice keyboards

 how do you find that Echolette? a tech told me to stay away from the due to parts rarity & maintenance issues, but I always dug the look of them

 never had a chance to try one out though

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« Reply #513 on: July 23, 2020, 06:57:08 PM »
Rhodes Kill is what happens when you run over an alligator with your Rhodes.
Bought this MKII in unplayable condition. Rebuilt from the ground up.
New Key tops and key bushings. New grommets hammers dampers and pedestal felt. Tolex hardware and painted a sparkle top lid.
Added preamp and that made a big difference. Fun to play.
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« Reply #514 on: July 23, 2020, 07:37:51 PM »
That piano looks clean!
Nicely done.

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« Reply #515 on: September 04, 2020, 02:20:11 PM »
Hi, Thanks for having me! My first Mark V story: About 10 years ago bought a Mark 1 from Wheaton College in Mass. for 300. Got it home, didn't love it--sluggish action, dull, lifeless tone, just like my suitcase 88 from years before that I got rid of for said reasons. Sold the Mark 1 in  less than an hour for 400. Went back to Wheaton to try another one---a "damaged" Mark 5 for 350. The only damage was that the shell had popped of, which took all of one minute to re-secure it. I've been in love ever since!

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« Reply #516 on: March 22, 2021, 05:54:31 PM »
Hi - New to the EP-Forum. First time Rhodes owner (I had a Wurly years ago) and I gig with a digital piano and vintage Korg clonewheels (1981 BX-3 and CX-3). I found a Rhodes 54 on Guitar Center's vintage online site. Posted for under one hour, and I was one of 5 buyers in line (I was #2 and the first buyer fell through!). $1699 and $40 to freight it 1,100 miles!   Just got it this week and it's amazing.  Appears to have been restored some years back by "ursomyrhodes" (who has posted on this Forum).  Probably retolexed with new repro hardware, but in beautiful shape-no rips.  Inside it's minty fresh - all shiny, with red coil pickups now wired in parallel groups (probably restoration) and no rust or corrosion whatsoever on the tines, tone bars or other internal hardware, and a switchcraft 1/4" jack replacing the RCA connecction.   Plays like a dream - nice accelerated action - feels and sounds great, pretty much arrived in tune, and with good balanced output.  A couple of small issues - one latch is broken (new pair on the way) and the tone slider may not be working (need to check out further -- easy fix). I know these are hard to find in any shape and the GC staff vouched for the nice condition, but this is better than I expected.  Super happy to have it ... and to join the Rhodes club!
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« Reply #517 on: March 30, 2021, 08:07:47 PM »
For many years I've been feeling a low-level but constant desire to get a Rhodes, and this month I finally took the plunge! It's a 1978 mark 1 Stage 73. I don't have any previous experience with actual electric pianos (though I've played lots of Rhodes patches on digital keyboards), so I have no basis of comparison but I think it sounds pretty great!

Check it out, here's my very first recording with it: https://youtu.be/Rns1GSf7MJ8

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« Reply #518 on: November 18, 2021, 01:54:24 PM »
I had a Wurlitzer 200 in my early 20's, and have missed having an EP for about as long.  I came across a FB marketplace for a 1973 Mark Rhodes Stage 88 needing "TLC."  The piano was originally used in a band, haven't found any heritage to, then acquired by a woman in the late 70's, she loved it, but a giving person and when a family member mentioned interest she let them have it, fast forward a few years she heard it was in the families closet, at which point she took it back.

All the pick ups work, about 4-5 play and stick keys, 4 slow refract keys and overall tone is nice, but pickups need adjusting for distance to regulate volume.  Nothing dodgy on the the pots bass/volume.  Original legs included, missing cross brace, and actual pedal (post was included.)  I'll load more pics apparently there was at least one coke that was sacrificed on bout the 70th -73 key where some keys stick, and there is moderate key height difference around there.  The tolex is shot (back of board is wood spray painted black missing Fender Rhodes badge, and the Eighty Eight is broke,  hardware needs swapping, but overall.... I'm very happy.

I would love to confirm what are the tonebars and harp raw material, I understand they are finished in yellow zinc, but don't know the base material.




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« Reply #519 on: November 18, 2021, 07:33:28 PM »
Hi all,
I suppose this is my Rhodes Story post. I found mine on craigslist, first one there, and the same old story goes...the gentleman with the grateful dead skull taped to his front door answers and shows me his Rhodes. Says he never once played it since he bought it in the 90's. His house is carpeted and covered in dust, so I believe him when I open it to find not a single speck or dust. Anyway, I brought a little bass amp and didn't bring a cable because there was one pictured. I plug in- no sound. I took a chance and used it as an excuse to bargain the price down to $800. I could sort of tell without amplification that the piano was going to be in at least decent working order, and cosmetically it was beautiful. The hard top has almost no scratches which leads me to believe it really hasn't been used much. Nothing is jarringly out of tune, but I haven't yet made any adjustments to tines and bars. Eventually I might bring it to a place here in Tucson.

From my research, I believe the piano is a 1973 Fender Rhodes from the Satellite Speaker package.
It seems from what I've read that you can date the pianos by reading the four-digit numbers on the harp rack (is that the right term?). My four-digit number is 3443, which doesn't seem to follow that, unless for some reason they substituted '7' for '4'. I know that the story goes Fender dropped it's name so it could sell in more stores. That was reported to be around the end of 1973. Which would make sense, because my gold sticker on the inside just says Rhodes, but the name plates say Fender Rhodes. Before anyone says it's a frankenstein, or that someone replaced the plates-I don't think anyone replaced the plates on this piano. Not that kind of guy. My theory is that it was made in 1973, after they had decided to drop Fender, so manufacturing put the Rhodes sticker on it. However, if this particular piano headed to a Fender dealer before that, or same time, they used the fender nameplates simply because they could.  And what about these other stamps?
The hammers have rubber tips, and are half wood, half plastic. Coils have clear tape wrapped around them.
So a few questions I'd loe to have answered:
-Any knowledge or advice about year it was made would be super appreciated!
-It seems like this was made for the Super Satellite system, because of the amp, and that the bottom has places for legs to screw in to (going to have to buy replacements as there are no legs unfortunately). I haven't seen any photos of that integrated amp on the seventy three's. Only the stage eighty eights. thoughts?
- Since the satellite speakers are expensive and hard to come by, are there any other ways I can get that Left right effect with different speakers? I can play in to my fender amp with the accessory output but really hoping to get that satellite effect one day.
- Why no date stamp? And whats up with the other stamps?

I'm really happy with the Rhodes and hope to have it for years to come. Been enjoying the forums for a few months now, and just finally decided to get around to making this post.  ;D
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« Reply #520 on: November 18, 2021, 07:34:49 PM »
Here are some photos.

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« Reply #521 on: November 18, 2021, 08:43:04 PM »
Your piano was "born"  on Aug. 21, 1974. That was a great era for Rhodes parts and assembly quality.

The 3443 stamp is its final assembly date stamp.  The code is:  week of the year (34); year (4='74) and day of the work week (3=Wednesday).

The transition to the Rhodes-only branding came in '73 for student pianos, but the other models made the transition in '74.  During that transition, they made a lot of pianos with Fender-Rhodes branding on the outside badges and Rhodes-only serial number stickers, just like yours. (I have a June '74 Stage piano that's also branded in that way.)  They were a frugal company: They must have decided to use up their supply of Fender Rhodes badges before making the change to the new outside branding, even though they had already moved on to Rhodes-only serial number stickers.

Another way to verify that it's a '74:  A '73 would have had keys with plastic "skirts" on the sides of each key, and slightly rounded tops. I'm betting yours has bare wood on the sides of the keys, flat tops -- and the front of the keys are more yellow than the tops.  These are the kinds of keys they were using in mid-'74.

It's subjective, but yours is in my favorite era of Rhodes pianos.  Enjoy it!

Alan
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« Reply #522 on: November 18, 2021, 09:34:17 PM »
Alan,
Thanks so much. I ran back to my post after finally running in to the FAQ page, and you verified what I meant to correct myself. Great info about the keys too. You are correct. I think I prefer flat keys to rounded so that's great. So great to have the date cleared up. I was a little jazzed about it a '73 seventy three, but hey '74 is a great year for songs with Fender Rhodes.

The only question I have left unanswered then would be if there are any speakers out there in the world besides the original satellites that could work with this piano to get that left/right stereo effect? Or, who wants to sell me some Fender Satellites?  ::)

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« Reply #523 on: November 19, 2021, 02:28:29 AM »
LnWR,

Get yourself a 24-Volt power supply for that 4-pin Peterson preamp.  This is the VV cheekblock PS with the cable:
https://www.vintagevibe.com/products/fender-rhodes-4-pin-cheek-block-power-supply?variant=899468355

That is a $216 hefty investment, considering that you can't be certain your preamp is in working condition.  (You might have to get the preamp repaired, but maybe not.  Roll the dice.)  The cheekblock power supply will give you left and right outputs that you can run to a pair of guitar amps, or to a little [stereo] PA system.

If the leg mounts on the bottom of the piano are in good shape, you can buy the legs and cross braces from Vintage Vibe as well.  VV sells replica sustain pedals too (or you can easily build your own).

Sean


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« Reply #524 on: November 19, 2021, 12:43:59 PM »
Thanks for your reply, Sean. I should have known that VV had a solution for this. The legs and other parts I knew they made, but I wasn't aware of the PS. With a little luck, a can do all of this (as well as maybe a miracle mod) and have the piano on legs with sustain pedal and dual channel trem and vibrato for its 50th birthday. I have a couple years  ;D
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« Reply #525 on: November 19, 2021, 01:10:16 PM »
Thanks for your reply, Sean. I should have known that VV had a solution for this. The legs and other parts I knew they made, but I wasn't aware of the PS. With a little luck, a can do all of this (as well as maybe a miracle mod) and have the piano on legs with sustain pedal and dual channel trem and vibrato for its 50th birthday. I have a couple years  ;D

If your piano was a 1973 model, the action likely would feel desperately heavy to you, and you'd definitely want to do a bump mod.  But after careful cleaning, lubing and adjustments, my 1974 Stage plays beautifully without a bump mod. Make no mistake: It plays like a Rhodes, not like a synth.  But you might want to get other things in order before you buy a bump kit.

BTW, this 12-year-old post by Sean is still, in my mind, the gold standard checklist for restoring a Rhodes:  https://ep-forum.com/smf/index.php?topic=5721.msg28106#msg28106

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« Reply #526 on: November 19, 2021, 03:56:04 PM »
I'd agree with Sean except maybe just to say that since you got such a good deal on the piano it might be worth it to rebuild the preamp anyway.

The Satellite speakers are basically impossible to find. There were the "Leslie 60" and "Leslie 70" speakers as well, but those are fairly rare. The power supply kit/stereo out will be a great investment. Back in my performing days I had that rig (with a different power supply) and loved the effect when the speakers were set wide apart!
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« Reply #527 on: November 19, 2021, 04:36:20 PM »
Interesting. I've read that the bump mods are good for pianos built in this year, but with that being said, the action feels pretty good. It's hard to know if its at it's sweet spot when you don't have anything around to compare to. I was in a band for many years where a later 70's Rhodes owned by another member was used on a ton of songs. I even played it on a song. I lived with them and it was in my house, so I get that it's not going to feel like a synth. I don't mind it having the action that softer action, but it does sometimes take a little heavier touch to hammer the keys than what I'm used to. Maybe thinking of the more bouncy keys on the Rhodes that my friends own.  Like I said, it is in remarkable cosmetic shape. I wouldn't doubt if it was never used. Hardly a scratch on the lid, not a single bit of rust or even dust on the bars (no humidity in Tucson might help). The keys are level, and there are only a few keys that are minutely out of tune, but hardly noticeable when just practicing. I would bet that the preamp is in good working order, knock on wood. Maybe some people have suggestions about what monitors the Rhodes sound good through. For now I use a fender bass amp, but I also have a Fender Deluxe tube amp. I was once told that Rhodes sound better out of solid state than tubes. I never really understood why not. Too hot?
Great link to that restoration info. I will bookmark that immediately.
John- Thanks,  I will look in to those Leslies.
Oh side note, I search for Rhodes on craigslist as it is an addiction I'm sure everyone here relates to whether they have Rhodes or not. A Rhodes M1 student went up last week (only other one I've seen on CL in last yr) that actually had one Rhodes Satellite speaker that came with it. Rhodes and speaker for $1000. But the piano looked like it was really beat up. I emailed to see if I could buy just the speaker and never got a reply. Oh well. Which one of you got it??!!

(I edited later this to make more sense)
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« Reply #528 on: November 20, 2021, 12:08:37 PM »
Passing along some words of wisdom I got from one of the nation's best vintage keys techs:  Don't replace anything on a Rhodes without having a good reason for doing so.  This isn't just to save you time and money.  There are a lot of bad replacement parts on the market that will change the character of the instrument.  (And for the record, this guy actually manufactures and sells replacement Rhodes parts, so he's speaking against his own financial interests.) 

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« Reply #529 on: November 21, 2021, 10:45:22 AM »
Passing along some words of wisdom I got from one of the nation's best vintage keys techs:  Don't replace anything on a Rhodes without having a good reason for doing so.  This isn't just to save you time and money.  There are a lot of bad replacement parts on the market that will change the character of the instrument.  (And for the record, this guy actually manufactures and sells replacement Rhodes parts, so he's speaking against his own financial interests.) 

Alan

Truth.  Years ago I bought a remote power supply from CAE Sound for a Peterson preamp.  It caused 60hz hum in the preamp when I used it.  When I opened the power supply, I found out that it was unregulated - useless.  A proper regulated power supply will not cause 60hz hum.

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« Reply #530 on: November 26, 2021, 01:55:55 PM »
Here’s my Rhodes MARK I Seventy Three key 1979 piano. 
I found it from a gentleman who fixes electric guitars and resells them.  He had gotten this 73 from an estate sale, kept it in storage for a while and decided to sell it.  When I got it, the Tolex was stinky and moldy, there were paint splatters on it, some pickups didn’t work and it was out of tune. I was going to have it professionally adjusted and tuned, but there would have been a 4 to 5 month waiting period and I was impatient to be able to play it.  It became my latest COVID-19 project, so I spent a lot of time reading up and watching videos on how to fix it up.

Now, its been cleaned inside and out; adjusted and tuned with new grommets, new pickups were needed, additional tone bar clips, etc.  I’m still tweaking the escapement to get it exactly right.  The top has been buffed and polished up. It got a facelift with funky new red and black snakeskin Tolex.

When I replace the beat up Tolex and hardware on my Mark I Eighty-Eight, I plan to post pictures of that as well. The story of the Eighty-Eight is that I got it from a gentleman outside Dayton, Ohio who had gotten it many years ago hoping his kids would master it.  He got it from a man who work on and repairs instruments for professional musicians like Bootsy Collins, and has worked on Moog synthesizers and the like. The inside is beautiful.  It’s in great tune and the electronics look and sound pristine.  The Tolex and corners are very beat up, consistent with a Rhodes which would have been used by a touring musician. I would really like to know the whole provenance of the Eighty-Eight.  Perhaps that’s something that this Forum could do?? (Keep a history of Fender Rhodes pianos by serial number, with notable owners & uses on recordings, by venues or on tours?? That could be a fun project for the right person.) 🤔

Like everyone on this forum, I love the mellow Rhodes sound. Getting the actual sound and feel from playing a real Rhodes is so much more fulfilling than from a MIDI.
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« Reply #531 on: November 26, 2021, 04:26:39 PM »
^^ looks funky indeed, it is something different and I like it.


congrats for getting it "on the road".   :)

and many happy times playing it, very well deserved.   :)
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