I still need help with my 270 pedal- need to see a photo or 2

[pianotuner steveo]

If anyone here has a photo of the piano end of the butterfly grand pedal assembly, please PM me, or attach photo here.  I have a buyer for my piano, but I still can't attach the pedal. It has been like this ever since I bought it, the person I bought the piano from claimed they knew nothing about the problem.

Please see the old thread titled "270 Butterfly Grand" started by Steveno. (that's not me) I have a detailed explanation of the issue, plus Cormac attached a photo of my pedal rod end on that thread to help show the issue better.

Thanks in advance. Buyer is picking up the piano this weekend.

[pianotuner steveo]

Does anyone have a picture they can send me?

[pianotuner steveo]

I've almost solved the problem! I think someone who did not know what they were doing put the 7/16" nut on the pedal rod aftermarket. I took the bottom plate out, removed the rod, flipped it upside down and wouldn't you know it, the other end is now TOO SMALL to grab 1/4-20 double ended nut. I used Teflon tape and super glue to attach the 1/4-20 double sided nut. (it grips real well) I just need one more just double sided nut like it and a short 1/4 rod. Then, it should reach into the piano and grab the pedal rod inside the piano. One more trip to the hardware store in the morning, and it should work....
Buyer is picking up on Sunday...

[spave]

Hi Steveo,

Unfortunately I do not have my 270 anymore so no photos, but from memory I don't think your 270's rod was modified. Mine had a similar looking nut but there was also a 2"ish brass piece above it that spun freely that gave it the extra bit of length to connect to the piano.


On hard floors that extra piece meant you had to lower the adjustable foot under the pedal to get it in the slot and then raise the foot once it was connected. It seems like a prior owner might have skipped that step and broken yours off.

Sorry I can't be of more help.

[pianotuner steveo]

It's ok, I got it to work finally. I removed the rod from the pedal lyre, flipped it over, and made an adjuster from 1/4-20 connectors. I sold the piano and the buyer said it works fine. I just don't understand why that large nut was put on the rod. I would still like to see pictures from anyone else who  still has an unmodified 270 to see the original piece that connects the rod to the piano.  Morelock's was clueless when I called them about this issue. I'm sad that I had to let it go, but the nice part is, the buyer is a regular local client, so I will still get to play the 270 sometimes.

[STE77EN]

Hey everyone,

seems like I have a very similar problem.

I was fortunate enough to recently buy a Wurlitzer 270 in very good condition.

It seems to have all the parts, but I can't get the sustain pedal to work either.
It includes the lyre, a kind of metal nut that can be screwed into the piano from below, and a bent metal rod that goes up from the lyre and looks like it could be connected to the screwed-in nut. The rod has a thickening at the end towards the nut, but you can only put this thickening into the nut, not screw it in. So when you step on the lyre pedal, the rod moves downwards and slides out of the nut instead of pulling it down to trigger the sustain effect.

Unfortunately I couldn't figure out how to fix this and have no idea how this can work.
Does anyone of you have any ideas?

I'm attaching photos of the parts I'm talking about.

I appreciate any constructive feedback and thank you in advance!

STE77EN

[DocWurly]

Steveo,

That nut was correct. You were just missing the top part.  A wurly owner just sent photos of the correct setup to me.

Earlier versions of the 270 used a 1-piece version of the nut with a snap ring to hold it into place.

I'd love to see what solution you came up with, though! Could be helpful to others in the same situation.