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What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?

Suitcase
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Fender Twin
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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #60 on: July 06, 2011, 05:56:46 PM »
howdy.  just joined this forum, but thought i'd weigh in.  i've been using my rhodes with a tweed bassman for a few years and it sounds excellent.  they have a good amount of headroom and a relatively balanced tone.  they aren't as scooped in the midrange as twins, so it's a different kind of sound.  but it sits well in the mix with a band.  (they're also a lot lighter than a twin!)

the later silverface bassmans also sound nice, but they break up much sooner and are also a little more scooped sounding.

just ran across my own post ...  I've actually switched to blonde bassmans &/or showmans over the past few months.  i use them with a hard truckers cab with 2x EVM 12L's.  The blonde bassman sits between the tweed and black/silverface versions.  It's not as grindy as the tweed, but not as scooped as the black/silver.  It's just a nice fat, dynamic sound.  the bassman gives more breakup, and the showman will stay cleaner if i need it.  I use modern versions of both made by Gomez.  Very good builds, and I don't have to worry about lugging around a vintage amp (the piano is enough for me ....)

the EV's were a recommendation from Steve Kimock.  They are a full-range PA kind of speaker, so they really carry the low end clearly.   the hard truckers cabs are also great for stage work - they are very non-directional, so you can pretty much put it anywhere and it will sound about the same.

the only problem is the weight.  the cab is a beast and the amp is not exactly lightweight either.  i'm considering going to a blonde bassman preamp and then something like a JBL eon. we'll see.

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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #61 on: November 14, 2011, 01:18:21 AM »
Also, I scratch-built an EV TL-806, a popular bass reflex design from the 1980s. Back then, it featured the EVM12, however, the Delta Pro 12 from Eminence is a good substitute and costs a couple of Euros less. Paired with a Dynacord HiFi Favorit II, a 85W German-made tube head from the late 1960s, it's a nice Rhodes amp. However, perhaps paired with a larger amp, I could also imagine it serving as a bass box. In turn, the Dynacord makes a nice Leslie amp for jazz purposes.
Although I haven't been using the TL-806 a lot, I'm pretty satisfied with the way it sounds – somehow a little "tighter" than an open-back cabinet in my opinion. Also, I've fallen in love with old Dynacord tube gear, so I added a Dynacord Eminent EMT and a Gigant I to my collection. Originally designed as powered mixers, I had intended them to be Leslie amps – and they're great at that – but they also make fabulous Rhodes amps. The little Eminent sounds fat and ballsy and can be driven into some overdrive – nice! The Gigant is, just as the name says, quite a monster at 180W tube power. Also, they all have multiple input for a second keyboard etc., although the preamps are not that great – early solid-state stuff … :)

Anyway, G.A.S. hit me again and I sold some of my other stuff to get a nice 1980s Roland Jazz Chorus 120. It was the amp I tested my Rhodes with when I bought it and, although I have enough others options by now, I still wanted to get one. I wasn't disappointed: The thing is in great condition, came at a fair price and sounds just the way I remembered it. Some may complain about it not being "warm" enough – but I don't get the "warmth" business anyway ;) So I just enjoy the JC.
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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #62 on: November 14, 2011, 10:15:22 AM »
When I got my sparkletop rhodes, the preamp had been missing and the 1/4" jack goes straight to the harp.  The closest thing I had to a Fender Twin was my Selmer "croc-skin" Zodiac Twin Thirty, a 1963 british amp that is more prevalent in Europe than the US.  Selmer never had US distribution for the "croc-skin" amps - they do not even have a 120VAC selector for US (former owner had installed a 120VAC to 240VAC step up transformer).  This is a two channel amp and when I experimented with bridging them I got an amazing sound - fusion bark in one channel combined with a nice bell tone in the other, and I can control the balance.  Because the Selmer has a tube rectifier I can get a nice compression effect when I play hard.  The speakers are the famed Celestion alnicos (same speaker used in Vox AC30s) and their bright chimey tone helps the rhodes sound.  I've been trying other amps and preamps and have yet to duplicate this sound.  I love it!

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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #63 on: November 20, 2011, 11:15:54 AM »
I'm sure it sounds good, but it also wins the award for the ugliest Rhodes amp ever. SCNR :D
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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #64 on: November 20, 2011, 01:19:52 PM »
 I am surprised that I never posted to this thread...
I use a Mark II suitcase bottom with my piano but I have to use the 1/4" jacks on both. Sounds great though. Unusual combo since they are 2 different colors.
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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #65 on: November 20, 2011, 02:17:34 PM »
I currently run a jack out from the harp into a 1973 Twin Reverb, since my suitcase bottom is in the shop. However, once it gets out (and I get speakers for it) it'll be played through that.

I don't really like it going through the twin, because my normal channel is being extremely noisy all of the sudden (probably needs another service) and the vibrato can't handle the full sound of the Rhodes without distorting (and the vibrato distortion is bleh)
I think most my displeasure with it is the piano though, not the amp. I haven't voiced it all the way (just to playable) and I haven't really gotten to restoring the action parts yet.

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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #66 on: January 22, 2012, 04:26:34 PM »
i have a roland jazz-chorus 77 for my rhodes mk2. very great sound.

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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #67 on: February 02, 2012, 06:58:56 PM »
I just learned a dirty little secret from the guitar discussion forums.

Ever wonder if Fender made a head-only version of the Twin Reverb?

They did.

The Dual Showman Reverb is the exact same chassis, circuit, transformer, and tubes of the Twin Reverb.  The schematics even match!

Note this is Dual Showman Reverb NOT Showman or Dual Showman

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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #68 on: February 02, 2012, 08:07:45 PM »
I believe Rick Wakeman used those, at least on his first couple solo albums.


And is it the blackface circuit or the silverface-era circuit?

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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #69 on: February 03, 2012, 06:47:15 AM »
Silverface.

The blackface are Showman or Dual Showman - they never made a blackface Dual Showman Reverb.

I checked the schematics last night - they are indeed identical.

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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #70 on: February 05, 2012, 06:16:54 AM »
I play my Rhodes through a 1978 Twin Reverb. The one with master volume. It sounds amazing! The tube sound of the Twin really enhances the Rhodes. The tone is huge! I love the sound of the tremolo too. I bought them both from the same guy. So I think this Twin has also been used been used with this Rhodes. They are a great pair. Besides, I a guitarist as well so I can use my Twin with my Telecaster. Sweet! 

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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #71 on: March 27, 2012, 09:43:04 AM »
I just learned a dirty little secret from the guitar discussion forums.

Ever wonder if Fender made a head-only version of the Twin Reverb?

They did.

The Dual Showman Reverb is the exact same chassis, circuit, transformer, and tubes of the Twin Reverb.  The schematics even match!

Note this is Dual Showman Reverb NOT Showman or Dual Showman

Sweet. I will have to keep my eye out for this model. It would be nice to get more stereo separation than just the vibrato from the Twin Reverb or suitcase.
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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #72 on: March 30, 2012, 07:27:21 PM »
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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #73 on: April 01, 2012, 09:50:21 AM »
Yorgatron:
That is huge! What are those (besides Fender PA100)?

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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #74 on: April 01, 2012, 05:53:36 PM »
Yorgatron:
That is huge! What are those (besides Fender PA100)?

top is a Motion Sound Pro-3T, organ goes in there, then into channel 1 for the low rotor simulator.
I built the speaker cab myself, there's a 15" JBL D-130F and a 10" Jensen.
channel 4 on the amp has been "blackfaced" to make it more suitable for guitar, but clav sounds good there too. I wanted something with enough channels to plug in several keyboards and/or a bass or guitar.
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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #75 on: April 10, 2012, 08:33:56 AM »
Just scored a Fender Dual Showman Reverb last night.  It is a master volume mid-70s model.  I tried a guitar through it at the store (no rhodes piano handy) and it sounded really deep and clear, not the constipated icepick treble of a '68 Twin Reverb I tried a couple of months ago.  I haven't yet tried it with my rhodes but judging by the tone of the guitar it should sound sweet.
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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #76 on: April 15, 2012, 05:30:34 PM »
The verdict is in:

The Dual Showman Reverb - same electronics as the Twin Reverb - does get that classic Rhodes sound.  You need an external cabinet with period correct speakers.

This thing is a really clean specimen - it still has the original RCA tubes.  An old lady played it only on Sundays.



However I still prefer the color and punch of my Selmer Twin Thirty.
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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #77 on: April 15, 2012, 07:47:50 PM »
Great looking amp!

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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #78 on: July 28, 2012, 05:54:46 PM »
roland jazz-chorus 77

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P64DKyVnq90

dry from 0 to 1.05 min. than the sound is processed by the harmonic clarifier and the chorus of the ampli.

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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #79 on: July 29, 2012, 09:31:05 AM »
roland jazz-chorus 77

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P64DKyVnq90

dry from 0 to 1.05 min. than the sound is processed by the harmonic clarifier and the chorus of the ampli.

Nice sound.  Great playing too!!!

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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #80 on: July 29, 2012, 07:10:39 PM »
Running my Mk1 Stage 88 into my '73 deluxe reverb for home use. Sounds great. Was thinking of building a dyno preamp for it but can't see how it would sound much better.


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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #81 on: August 14, 2012, 03:48:52 PM »
Depending on what I'm doing, I run my Rhodes (and Wurly, and Nord) through one of three amps- a Vox AC15 C1 with vintage 25w alnico, a 1970's silverface Twin Reverb, or a Yamaha G100-212 (which is an amazing value in a vintage solid state amp). I give my Rhodes a bit of grit using a Spaceman Aphelion Harmonic Drive pedal, which adds that really sensitive and dynamic overdrive so important to my perfect Rhodes sound.

Of course, the ideal end result will involve my MK1's suitcase re-loaded with speakers and both channels working perfectly, something I'm working on currently.

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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #82 on: May 30, 2013, 01:38:14 PM »
Hello Fellow Forum Member's!

I just got my first Rhodes, 1977 Fender Rhodes Mark 1 73, Now I have a behringer kx1200 that I was using with my korg krome, but I've heard that you want something a little different for the rhodes.

Here's what I've found on my local craigslist, and am thinking of purchasing.

Fender Twin Reverb 65 Reissue with cover and footswitch  - Perfect Shape - $700
Egnater Tweaker 112 15W 1x12 Tube Guitar Combo Amp - $300
Marshall 8240 Stereo with footswitch - Decent, some pots aren't in the best shape - $225
Peavey TransChorus 210 amp with footswitch and pedal - Used $150

To give you a little background, I also will be hopefully putting a chopped hammond a-100 through it, and also use clav and piano sounds in my gig's (although not sure what Im going to get for those). I also will be getting a novation synth to add bass synth lines.

I mainly will be playing the rhodes, and we play funk, jazz, and classic rock.

Pretty new to this whole thing, what do guy's recommend, thoughts/ideas/comments VERY much appreciated.

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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #83 on: May 30, 2013, 01:50:00 PM »
Hi Skipettine,
Just to clarify, were you planning on running everything through the single amp (rhodes, hammond, synth bass, etc.)?
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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #84 on: May 30, 2013, 08:36:28 PM »

Fender Twin Reverb 65 Reissue with cover and footswitch  - Perfect Shape - $700
Egnater Tweaker 112 15W 1x12 Tube Guitar Combo Amp - $300
Marshall 8240 Stereo with footswitch - Decent, some pots aren't in the best shape - $225
Peavey TransChorus 210 amp with footswitch and pedal - Used $150

I'd expect if you're gigging with a band, the Twin reissue would be your best bet.  I believe they're rated about 85 watts into a pair of 12"s.  Right there, you're going to have more headroom over a 15 watt Egnater, the 40 watt Marshall, or the Peavey, which is rated at 2x50 watts, but uses 10" speakers.

The chorus you get with some of the other amps is cool, but you can get that from a pedal, and it's unlikely you'd hear the "stereo" effect in a playing situation, unless you're also going into the board, which it sounds like you're not, or you'd not be asking about amps.

$700 for a used amp seems a little high for one of those reissues though.  Especially when you can get into a real Silverface twin for less than a grand, and gets you closer to 100 watts.


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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #85 on: May 31, 2013, 08:46:59 AM »
And the reissue Twin Reverb will distort sooner than a silverface amp.  The silverface amps are cleaner for Rhodes pianos.  Plenty of used SF Twin Reverbs around for a similar price.  I also recommend experimenting with different speakers if you are looking for a particular sound, speakers can make a world of difference.

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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #86 on: June 03, 2013, 06:30:14 PM »
I'd recommend a Silverface too. I have a '73 SF Twin and I really like it both for all my keys and guitar. The silverfaces are bit unpopular with guitarists compared to blackfaces, but I like the SF's bigger headroom and more cleanliness. And when I want some slight breaking up, without making my ears bleed too much, I use the master volume. I don't think using the MV for that is a popular opinion, but i'ts nice to get that sparkle without having to unload too much power.

Also SF's tend to be cheaper.

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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #87 on: November 19, 2013, 02:37:25 AM »
I have a Peterson preamp that I haven't installed in my sparkletop.  While the Dual Showman Reverb is a viable Twin Reverb in head form, it can't be used for the stereo tremolo on the preamp.  It also distorts more than I like when you approach stage volume.

Once again, guitar players prove to be an influence.  I have learned that the Tubeworks Mosvalve MV-962 is a desireable dual channel power amp amongst the guitar circles.

My brother has one.  A friend is selling one.

A quick google found the owners manual.  This thing puts out 80w per channel.  Hmmm, same power as the Peterson power amp in suitcase amps.

So I give my brother's Mosvalve a quick run through and it proves to be up to the task.  A little heavy on the upper mids, nothing that can't be corrected with the right speakers.  I have a variety of speaker cabinets that showed promising results.  The amp does give that color of power tubes when you push it, but the signal stays cleaner than the DSR.  I have a few other speakers that I will experiment for landing "that tone".

So I now have a power amp that is suitable for stereo tremolo of the suitcase.  All I need is someone to build me a new baffle for the player side, as I want cutouts for 12s not 10s on the original.

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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #88 on: November 19, 2013, 09:59:32 AM »
The Roland KC500 or KC550, with a 15 and a horn are great for Rhodes, imo.  Two of them would be a completely badass Satellite setup.

Personally, I think guitar amps are overrated for Rhodes- it just sounds like playing a bass through a guitar amp to me.  Granted, they have their place, but a full-range 15/horn keyboard amp like the KC-500 is much better for reproducing the bottom of the low notes and the high overtones, and is a far more faithful reproduction of the actual sound of the instrument.

If the guitar amp sound is what you're going for, great.  Otherwise, I'd recommend trying a Roland KC before spending a bunch of money on a Twin Reverb or whatever.   

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Re: What kind of amp do you use with your Rhodes?
« Reply #89 on: November 19, 2013, 03:21:28 PM »

A quick google found the owners manual.  This thing puts out 80w per channel.  Hmmm, same power as the Peterson power amp in suitcase amps.


Is the Tubeworks Mosvalve MV-962  a tube amp?  If it is, and it puts out 80w per channel, it will obliterate a the output of a standard Suitcase.  I think the Suitcase is actually rated at 40 watts anyway, no?  It doesn't matter as 80 watts of real tube output will prove much louder than any comparable solid state amp.   

One of the drawbacks I have with the Peterson/Suitcase setup is how low the output is. Neither one of my suitcases is capable of even anything approaching a volume capable of discomfort, whereas even a 15 watt tube amp can rattle a room. 

My current project is a Suitcase that's going to have two 60 watt Dynaco Mk III power amps stuffed inside.   I expect that'll be louder than anything I'll ever need.

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