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Damper problem

Started by Dan The Man, October 08, 2004, 10:35:13 PM

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Dan The Man

Ok, so I finally got my new hammer on, but now I have a new problem: my dampers, especially on my newly repaired "D", do a sort of "double damp"; they hit the note twice/they bounce, which mutes the note. I've tried bending the damper, and it didn't help. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I fix this?

Thanks,
Dan

nobody

what year is your rhodes

Anonymous

I have a 1973 Mark I Stage piano.

Dan The Man

Does anyone have any experience with this and/or ideas of how to fix it? It's really bugging me.
Thanks,
Dan

O.Lahoz

Quote from: "Dan The Man"Ok, so I finally got my new hammer on, but now I have a new problem: my dampers, especially on my newly repaired "D", do a sort of "double damp"; they hit the note twice/they bounce, which mutes the note. I've tried bending the damper, and it didn't help. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I fix this?

Thanks,
Dan

You must see the online manual (Damper adjustement):

"Each Damper Arm is actually a Leaf Spring. Tension can be increased or decreased by "ironing" a slight curve in the part with your two fingers. Another way is to pull upward or downward on the arm atPoint "A".
Added tension will result in a stiffer Damper response."
O. Lahoz
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1979 Rhodes Suitcase 73 Mark I  / 1979 Rhodes Stage 73 Mark I -->TC Electronic G-Force

Anonymous

I have now tried all the adjustments advised in the Rhodes Manual, and nothing works. It has essentially the same height as other keys when struck at the same velocity (as in the damper would be down, it's the same as the other beside it that I hit exactly the same way), but I can see it bouncing upward and damping the tine. I have tried bending it as far back as I can reach on the damper, but it hasn't worked. Furthermore, I tried adjusting the bridle strap, and ran into another problem: the pin that holds the bridle strap on broke off. So, my question still remains, how do I fix this? And also, is there any way to replace the damper now that the pin is broken? Please someone help me with this!
-Dan

Anonymous

After a few more minutes of investigation, I found out it might not be so much my damper bouncing as my hammer bouncing. This hammer is a replacement I had to put in because the old one had a broken guide pin. So, my new question is, does anyone have any experience with overbouncy hammers? This one bounces usually twice as opposed to the others that only bounce once to hit the note. In the case of this one, it bounces twice, and the hammer doesn't hit twice, but because of the bounce, it causes the damper to jump back up and hit the tine. Anyone have any suggestions? Please!
Thanks,
Dan

jim

check the tech notes section of the super site for info on double striking hammers. it will solve your problem.
i don't think any of your hammers should bounce at all before they hit a note, they may bounce a little afterward, but not before, not even once.
i think you should study the action very carefully.
very carefully.. seek and you shall find.

DanTheMan

I just looked at the action, and I can't seem to find anything different on that key from any others around it...but, I don't quite know what kinds of things to look for. The felts all looked like they were in the same condition...the only consideration I have in this problem is that maybe it's partially caused by the fact that this hammer, although it matches all the others in terms of type, is a replacement I recently installed. Is there something I should do to adjust the hammer installation perhaps? Please, anyone with any suggestions, please reply with them. I can use all the help I can get. This is the most difficult and most annoying problem I've encountered yet.
Thanks,
Dan

DanTheMan

Ok, so I've pretty much determined that my problem is hammers that bounce. I do have an earlier model (1973), and I believe I read that this tends to be a problem with these early models. I still do not know how to fix it. I did read something about putting in backchecks (I think they were called...)...does anyone have any experience with these? Do they change the action considerably? Are they expensive? Are they simple to install? And does anyone have any other solutions or ideas of things to try with these hammers? I'm noticing it's occuring on several different hammers and not just this one.

Thanks,
Dan

Texas

How much did your hammer cost? Take your rhodes to a tech or whatever.Your whole piano needs an adjustment.Dont try to be cheep about it.

DanTheMan

I would LOVE to get my Rhodes teched out, but I am pretty limited in cash, and the techs that are in my area are at least 2 hours away. At least, the ones that I know of. I'm in Lima Ohio in case anyone here knows of any techs close to here. I'm just not sure how expensive it would be. And, I can't help that DIY spirit, you know?

-Dan

Big Tex

A rhodes cost money so does tone.I cant understand why people are so tight with getting their rhodes teched out.Good luck and have a blast.