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Offline solyaris

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my rhodes lack legs :(
« on: May 18, 2010, 03:59:19 AM »
Hi all
I got a rhodes Mark I stage piano to repair (SERIAL NO. K 744529 UPPER LEFT 010254-TBJ 1079)

Unfortunately I do not have legs (and sustain leg).. .:(
Here in Italy is very difficult to got repair and because I found too expensive legs repair found on web, I decided to ask to a blacksmith shop to build 4 legs;

there are someone so kind to post some (detailed) photos of legs ?

Do you think the 4 legs are sufficient (or are essential also the 2 cross legs) ?

What the lenght of legs ?

here some photos:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2042940&id=1169037408&l=e46cea71c5

BTW, any suggestion welcome.
thanks
giorgio

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my rhodes lack legs :(
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2010, 07:45:10 PM »
Nice and crusty inside...huh?

The sustain pedal is a bigger problem, but there is a thread active right next to this one at the moment with some good comments.

Regarding legs, I personally believe the Rhodes legs are over-rated and I use one of these and it's far superior in many ways:

http://www.zzounds.com/item--MUPKS7350
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my rhodes lack legs :(
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2010, 03:08:53 AM »
Quote from: "shmuelyosef"
Nice and crusty inside...huh?

The sustain pedal is a bigger problem, but there is a thread active right next to this one at the moment with some good comments.

Regarding legs, I personally believe the Rhodes legs are over-rated and I use one of these and it's far superior in many ways:

http://www.zzounds.com/item--MUPKS7350


thanks for your answer.
yes, inside I found the hell :(
yesterday, a ta a first analysis, I unfortunately realized that Ihave many dead pick-ups [I presume because the piano have been leaved in a humid place for years ?! ...]
I postopone the census of deads after I will have done a tempt to wash away the rust from pick-ups and tines ...

Regarding sustain pedal ... I have teh pedal but I do not have his leg ...
in sincerity I postponed the sustain problem because before I have to solve the problem of emitting sounds ... :)
Nevertheless, I confess my dream is to realize these rhoides open-sustain clusters drift long chords sounds ... even iif at the moment that seem an utopia (considering the conditions of the piano)


Regarding legs, I have mee to a similar system, a double X keyboard stand, something like that:
http://www.zzounds.com/item--WORSXKS

your choice is a bit better because maybe the instrument  ROLL / move a bit less when playing  ... but I hate that these 70 kg of stuff rolls ... ;-)

so the reasons I'd prefere the 4 indipendent legs are:
1) STABILITY
2) SPACE: yes: I'd like to maintain the "free" space below the piano, for putting here some stuff ... furinture ...

cheers
giorgio

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Re: my rhodes lack legs :(
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2019, 11:09:32 AM »
hey giorgio, I'm in a similar problem as you were in 2010 ;)

how did you solve the leg problem? did you build them yourself?

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Re: my rhodes lack legs :(
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2019, 01:59:08 PM »

Don,

Vintage vibe has the legs for $175, but is out of stock on the crossbars.  Hmmm...
https://www.vintagevibe.com/collections/fender-rhodes-legs/products/fender-rhodes-stage-reproduction-legs


You can make cheap and nastly legs (emphasis on nasty) using 3/4" threaded rod, total cost $50.
https://ep-forum.com/smf/index.php?topic=6226.msg30513#msg30513


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Re: my rhodes lack legs :(
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2019, 01:26:07 PM »
Regarding crossbars, I see lots of people who don't use them, but I consider them essential (if using original style legs) for two reasons:
1) They stabalize the isntrument when you are rocking out...much more solid feeling. I can't stand wobble!
2) This for me is the big one, and one I learned relatively recently. When setting up the rhodes by yourself, you can screw the legs on while the rhodes is propped up on it's "back" (where the big logo is), then you can set it upright by using the rear two legs as a pivot. I would never do this without the support braces, but with them it is quite stable when doing this and I don't worry about damaging the joints where the legs screw in.

If I didnt have the original legs, I'd go for one of these if you can find it in Italy:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1416679-REG/k_m_18953_017_55_table_style_digital_piano_stand.html/?ap=y&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI6MC2zpXL4QIVdBh9Ch0nmwq2EAQYAyABEgIZy_D_BwE&lsft=BI%3A514&smp=Y
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Re: my rhodes lack legs :(
« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2019, 03:30:32 AM »
My Rhodes also came without legs. Here's what I did - maybe this could be a way forward:

Legs:
1) Fitted threaded rods of correct pitch/lead, as suggested in the linked post above, inside appropriate lengths of stainless steel water pipes.
2) Fastened the rods inside the pipes with rivets, allowing an appropriate length of rod to protrude at the upper end of each leg.
3) Epoxy-glued hard, solid plastic plugs inside the bottom end of each leg, drilled holes, fitted thread inserts, and mounted flexible, adjustable feet.

Crossbars:
4) Flattened and bent the lower and upper ends of two lengths of stainless steel pipe (of a smaller diameter than those for the legs) and drilled holes for a small bolt/wing screw and the original Rhodes thumb screw in lower and upper ends, respectively.
5) Fitted the lower ends onto the legs with brackets with wing screws for yacht rails. The thumb screw holds the upper ends.

Some of the above parts could be welded on, I guess, but I do not have the proper skills. I have skipped details about dimensions, tools, obligatory secure working conditions, measuring lengths and angles, finishing etc. I believe that stainless steel can be polished to an almost chrome look if desired - I haven't done that. I bought the steel pipes as scrap metal, so the total cost was negligible compared to the price of a new or used set of legs, and the work was great fun.

The authenticity of the result is open for discussion, but I do have a very stable Rhodes with detachable, slightly adjustable legs and what I feel is a "rhodesy look".

I have attached a few pictures.

Cheers, Retmon

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Re: my rhodes lack legs :(
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2019, 01:35:50 AM »

Retmon,

NICE!  Looks much better than the ones I made from 3/4-10 threaded rod.

Now I have to try to build a set too.

Sean

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Re: my rhodes lack legs :(
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2019, 03:17:24 AM »
Hi Sean,

Well, as you see, my set was literally built on your original idea with the treaded rods - thanks for getting me started :-) Being almost solid, they must however weigh somewhat more than the original legs. My Rhodes probably won't leave the studio, though, so weight is not an issue here.

Cheers, Retmon