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Offline Infa Red

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« on: May 22, 2010, 04:29:18 AM »
I was wondering if between the years of 1970 and 1974 was there any differences to the pickups installed from the factory on these Fender Rhodes ?

If so, are there anyones that are particularly sought after and more desirable than the others ?

Basically, I am kinda swapping parts (matching best with best) with my 2 Fender Rhodes to complete my "best" Fender Rhodes. For me personally, I like everything on the 1970 alot better (case, red velvet inner top, keys, ACTION, inside wood planks looks cleaner, etc..), BUT I like the tone bars and tines from my 1974 (they look WAY less oxidized and just look way better) - So I was going to be taking the tone bars and tines off my 74 and putting them on my 1970. Now my question is, should I also swap over the pick ups too while I'm at it ? Or just leave the 1970's pickups on there ?

Honestly, its funny, but somehow the 1970's pickups look alot cleaner than on my 74's, so I do want to just leave them, but wanted to know if per chance the 1974's had better pickups ? And if so, then I would swap them then.

Thanks in advance for all your input --
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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2010, 08:34:41 AM »
There was definitely a change in the wiring pattern of the set of pickups.

See this page of the manual for detailed description:
http://www.fenderrhodes.com/org/manual/ch10.html#10-4

I happen to own a complete 1970 harp. The pickup brackets are somewhat different to the later style, and there also seem to be changes to the bobbins that the wire is wound around.

Here's the top side of my 1970 set:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/linear/3159029268/sizes/o/in/photostream/

and the bottom:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/linear/3159029194/sizes/o/in/photostream/

I couldn't get a good shot of the wiring, but it's wired in groups of 6 like the manual shows.

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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2010, 09:00:54 AM »
Quote from: "Rob A"
There was definitely a change in the wiring pattern of the set of pickups.

See this page of the manual for detailed description:
http://www.fenderrhodes.com/org/manual/ch10.html#10-4

I happen to own a complete 1970 harp. The pickup brackets are somewhat different to the later style, and there also seem to be changes to the bobbins that the wire is wound around.

Here's the top side of my 1970 set:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/linear/3159029268/sizes/o/in/photostream/

and the bottom:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/linear/3159029194/sizes/o/in/photostream/

I couldn't get a good shot of the wiring, but it's wired in groups of 6 like the manual shows.


Hey Rob, thanks for chiming in to help me.

So which do you think are better sounding ?

I actually was hoping for a different answer, cause then my decision was easy (go with the ones that look the best -lol) but now I want to make sure to just go with the ones that sound the best.

What do you think ? 1970 pick ups vs 1974 pickups ?
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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2010, 10:55:26 AM »
I don't think they SOUND different..I think there are just minor physical differences such as the bracket, and later ones being white.. The sound differences come in when you voice the piano.
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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2010, 01:58:16 PM »
I'm with steveo on this one 100%--any differences between pickups will be small compared to the differences you can intentionally make during setup.

However, being aware of the wiring pattern is important. The groups-of-six arrangement gives you lower output level to work with.

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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2010, 03:40:44 PM »
Quote from: "pianotuner steveo"
I don't think they SOUND different..I think there are just minor physical differences such as the bracket, and later ones being white.. The sound differences come in when you voice the piano.


Quote from: "Rob A"
I'm with steveo on this one 100%--any differences between pickups will be small compared to the differences you can intentionally make during setup.

However, being aware of the wiring pattern is important. The groups-of-six arrangement gives you lower output level to work with.


Thanks guys for all the valuable input.

Ok, so basically these pick ups over the years weren't made by one company, then another, or built completely different one year than another, therefore making some better MADE than others, therefore making those ones better made more sought after, etc...? (like guitar pick ups or something) --

Your saying they were all MADE the same to the same specs/quality. (for the most part, if any differences they were not noticeable enough to make a impact.) BUT the only noticeable difference lies between the two different wiring techniques used between them years ?
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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2010, 08:56:04 PM »
Kind of. There are differences, but they aren't huge or even likely to be significant.

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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2010, 09:37:26 PM »
Quote from: "Rob A"
Kind of. There are differences, but they aren't huge or even likely to be significant.


Ok, cool. Thanks for the info. I guess that means I am just going to go with the ones that physically look the best then. (as they both worked fine)

So....

These next questions and pictures are going to have more focus and to do with Parts and Maintenance, so I am starting a new thread in that part of the forum to streamline more focus now on my next questions directly.

Thanks again to all that helped me here, and I hope to see your input over at the new thread I start there.
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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2010, 06:41:52 PM »
be careful though if you swap all the tines to a different piano the strike line will probably be out and they wont sound good anymore.