It's About That Time - chord progression

[solyaris]

hi all

when I was young ... I was obsessioned by this chord progression:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1MqKhBuAzo&feature=related

does someone could tell me what chords are ... i'm not a pianist, but I know jazz terminology ?

I mean the 6-steps piano bit-dissonant chord progressions, played on rhodes by Chick Corea (If I'm not wrong).

BTW, In a Silent way (the Joe Zawinul theme and all the album of course) is immo unequalled...

Last but not least, someone know what model of organ Joe played here ?

thanks
giorgio

[Rob A]

I am also obsessioned.

They vary it each time, so what I'm showing is kind of the "average" of what they do. The top voice generally doesn't get messed around very much, most of the variety happens in interior voices toward the end of the phrase. There are two guys playing, so transcribing this is a major effort.

The organizing principle is the ambiguity between major and minor thirds throughout this tune(listen to Miles' solo).

Anyway, I play it:
(B E A) (Bb Eb Ab)
(Bb Eb Ab) (G C F)
(Ab Db F) (A D F)

It is three bars long, which adds to the tension, since they repeat it and it forms a very long hemiola against the overall 4/4 feel and the two bar bass ostinato that eventually enters. I don't know that I'd really put chord symbols to any of that.

[solyaris]

WOW! thanks a lot Rob!

reading your notes, it sound correct ... I mean I was possibly never able to detect; i'm not a pianist and my ear on detecting chords on rhodes is not so good ... indeed all chords on rhodes sound wright ;-)  

There are two guys playing, so transcribing this is a major effort.

yeah, Chick and Herbie... even if in the "introduction" of chords progression I can datect just one piano ... (it seem to me Chick style...) but I'm possibly wrong and in the entire piece there are absolutely two rhodes playing.

The organizing principle is the ambiguity between major and minor thirds throughout this tune(listen to Miles' solo).

mhhh... I presume they use a "mode" where major and minor third are noth present in the scale...

It is three bars long, which adds to the tension, since they repeat it and it forms a very long hemiola against the overall 4/4 feel and the two bar bass ostinato that eventually enters.

do not know what a hemiola is ... but you gived the idea ...

Thanks again! as soon I can I will try your suggestion! and I feedback!
giorgio

[Rob A]

There's also very interesting liner notes by Bob Belden in the box set reissue of "The Complete In A Silent Way Sessions." This tune was edited pretty significantly by Teo Macero. On that box set you get to hear the unedited tracks that were recorded.

[John Brevik]

Rob, you freakin' rock.

[solyaris]

box set reissue of "The Complete In A Silent Way Sessions."

I see! good news! thanks(btw, I still have to try your triades )

[solyaris]

Yes Rob! I played your triades: they seem to me absolutely that played in the original piece!
fourths-chords bit-dissonant progression...
it's funny that a part the dissonant "loop", there is also "implicit" a kind of bluesy cadenza...
very interesting also the whole improvvisation on further progressions ...

many many thanks!:)
giorgio