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Vintage Vibe's ClaviGel
« on: May 16, 2013, 10:23:32 PM »
Edit: I'm back on the fence. That's all I'll say. Might be worth a shot for someone else since I had one of the preliminary runs of the gel but you'll have to decide for yourself. --I'll be sticking with the old school time tested approach of using yarn.
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Thanks for the review. I have been really curious about this stuff.
I love watching the video on the website and seeing all the strings cut...makes me a little nervous.
Michael
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Fifteen years ago I put new strings on my Clav D6.  I'm sure that using the ClaviGel is a lot easier than fishing the strings through the yarn using a straw.

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Re: Vintage Vibe's ClaviGel
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2015, 12:53:37 PM »
Any more good or bad experiences with the ClaviGel and how it has held up over time since being released?
thanks,
Michael
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Re: Vintage Vibe's ClaviGel
« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2015, 02:29:11 AM »
I am a drummer and sometimes to dampen the toms or snare for unwanted overtones we use a sticky gel pad called Moongels that we put on the tom or snare batterhead. I had a Clav in the shop where the yarn was pretty good all over except for the four or five bottom keys. I used moongels under the strings here just to Experiment and it worked great. I have yet to try out the Clavigel but to me it looks to be about the same texture as moongels.
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Re: Vintage Vibe's ClaviGel
« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2015, 01:00:07 PM »
Just do the yarn.
It doesn't suck to do.. Takes a couple hours or less one time and yarn is a valid  tested method which works.
Just do it the right way.

The whole gel thing is intriguing. Having worked on other vintage keys with that nasty black or blue goo inside and seeing how this stuff degrades overtime makes me stick to how it was done before. Maybe in 10 years I'd contemplate using it.
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Re: Vintage Vibe's ClaviGel
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2015, 03:30:15 PM »
We used the Clavigel system in two pianos when it was first introduced. One of them developed grooves and had dampening problems in the mids and lows after six months or so. My other client has not reported any issues but I have not heard it in person since it left the shop. They may have updated the product since then because I do know that the color changed from blue to green but I still don't see the point in cutting corners anymore.

Yarning or just the physics of dampening vibrations within any instrument in general is an art form. Too tight and too loose your notes are going to ring out or if the dampening material is too dense or soft you will run into other isses.... Even though there is a premium yarn shop--yes, a dedicated yarn shop--around the corner from my Chicago apartment, none of the yarns I tried do just the right job across the octaves the way that the yarn that I get from Ken Rich. His string sets come with yarn to get the job done and is should just take a few hours to get the yarn installed properly (--it's good work for a Martini or a Colorado cigarette and listening to a few of your favorite records).
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