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New Wurly Day!

Started by bcatchings, July 28, 2014, 10:57:18 PM

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bcatchings

Today my brother and I got on the road at 5am and drove from Baton Rouge, LA to Corinth, MS and back home again. 826 miles give or take a few and nearly 14 hours of driving, for what you ask? For this! A Wulitzer 270. All original. Legs and bench too! Yeah she has 5 dead keys and though I've not opened it yet I believe they're just broken reeds from the way they feel but in spite of the missing notes she still sounds INCREDIBLE. I didn't think anything sounded as sweet as that 140B I've been fixing up. Boy was I wrong.
1962 Wurlitzer 140B
1968 Penncrest Philicorda GM753
1974 Rhodes MKI Stage 73
1974 RMI 368X
1977 Rhodes MKI Stage 88
1978 Roland MP-600
1982 SCI Prophet 600
2004 Muse Research Receptor
2007 Roland VK-8M

vanceinatlance

Congrats on your new piano, it looks to be in really nice condition! Those don't show up every day. It's good to hear others are crazy enough to drive long distances for these treasures!

pianotuner steveo

Someday, if you get a chance, could you please post a photo of the end of the pedal rod that connects to the bottom of the piano? I have one of these, but I can not connect the pedal. It does not reach. I have tried explaining this problem to Morelock's but they do not understand what I am saying. The seller of course had "no idea" what I was talking about.

Can I ask how much the piano was?
1960 Wurlitzer model 700 EP
1968 Gibson G101 Combo organ
1975 Rhodes Piano Bass
1979 Wurlitzer 206A EP
1980 Wurlitzer 270 Butterfly Grand
2009 73A Rhodes Mark 7
2009 Korg SV-1 73
2017 Yamaha P255
2020 Kawai CA99
....and a few guitars...

bcatchings

Thanks guys! I'm very stoked about this. Here are the goods Steve. I imagine what you're missing is this little nut on the end of the sustain rod. It catches at the very top and screws onto the post under the 270. If you had to I believe you could make one with a properly threaded nut, the right size washer and some glue that works for metal. Especially since the mechanism only pushes on the sustain post. As for the last question ;D we got it for $250. Maybe it was because it was the middle of nowhere (seriously, dirt roads, cornfields and everything) and no one plays it. Maybe it's full of body parts. Not sure why but yeah very lucky on this end. I didn't even blink at the 5 dead keys.
1962 Wurlitzer 140B
1968 Penncrest Philicorda GM753
1974 Rhodes MKI Stage 73
1974 RMI 368X
1977 Rhodes MKI Stage 88
1978 Roland MP-600
1982 SCI Prophet 600
2004 Muse Research Receptor
2007 Roland VK-8M

voltergeist

Looks great!  I'm jealous.
Restored or Overhauled: '65 A-model Sparkletop, '78 Suitcase 73, early-'75 Satellite 88, '81 MkII Stage 73, two '77 Mk1 Stage 73's, '74 Mk1 Stage 73
In Progress: 1 '78 Suitcase (2nd one), '70 KMC - Customized w/ Peterson 4x12, '77 Wurli 270

sean

SteveO,

Take a thread gauge to the upper stubby end sticking out and you can probably find a flare nut to fit.

In your friendly hardware store, at the end of the plumbing aisle, there is usually a section of fittings for copper tubing (for refrigerator, destupidifier, sink, or toilet hookups).

You might get really lucky and find a flare nut that fits both the rod diameter and the threads too.

If the lower rod already has a threaded hole for a retaining screw, then whoohoo!  Done.

Sean


pianotuner steveo

#6
Those pictures helped a lot! The top of the pedal is the same as mine, but the piece sticking out of the bottom of the piano is missing (upper stubby end) from my piano. ( Not the nut on the pedal rod)

The pedal rod does not reach into the piano.

I may just bring the pedal to the hardware store. I need to adapt from that nut to the piece in the piano that I assume is the same thread size as the standard 200 cable end.

1960 Wurlitzer model 700 EP
1968 Gibson G101 Combo organ
1975 Rhodes Piano Bass
1979 Wurlitzer 206A EP
1980 Wurlitzer 270 Butterfly Grand
2009 73A Rhodes Mark 7
2009 Korg SV-1 73
2017 Yamaha P255
2020 Kawai CA99
....and a few guitars...

cinnanon

Interesting little sustain pedal connection.

Almost like a compression fitting nut (in the sense of the hex nut) in conjunction with a brass male-female standoff.

I assume the nut is attached to the pedal rod? and the piece you are missing (steveo) is the standoff I described?
Look on mcmaster-carr for brass male-female standoffs. They look like this.

pianotuner steveo

Yeah, I guess that is what I need,but I have no idea what the thread sizes are.
1960 Wurlitzer model 700 EP
1968 Gibson G101 Combo organ
1975 Rhodes Piano Bass
1979 Wurlitzer 206A EP
1980 Wurlitzer 270 Butterfly Grand
2009 73A Rhodes Mark 7
2009 Korg SV-1 73
2017 Yamaha P255
2020 Kawai CA99
....and a few guitars...

pianotuner steveo

$250, wow!

I got mine for a steal and it was a lot more than that, plus it was shipped. I think $250 was the shipping charge.

Can't complain, I got my share of free and $40-$50 Wurlitzers before that one.





1960 Wurlitzer model 700 EP
1968 Gibson G101 Combo organ
1975 Rhodes Piano Bass
1979 Wurlitzer 206A EP
1980 Wurlitzer 270 Butterfly Grand
2009 73A Rhodes Mark 7
2009 Korg SV-1 73
2017 Yamaha P255
2020 Kawai CA99
....and a few guitars...

bcatchings

Yeah I figured for that price it was well worth the drive and the gas. This is by far the least I've paid for an EP except for the free 88 key Rhodes that my father-in-law found at a high school in Arkansas. They just gave it to him and he handed it straight to me. Other than that it's been an expensive addiction.
1962 Wurlitzer 140B
1968 Penncrest Philicorda GM753
1974 Rhodes MKI Stage 73
1974 RMI 368X
1977 Rhodes MKI Stage 88
1978 Roland MP-600
1982 SCI Prophet 600
2004 Muse Research Receptor
2007 Roland VK-8M

pianotuner steveo

#11
BTW, this pedal (like other Wurlis) pulls down on the sustain mech, it does not push up like in a Rhodes. If it simply pushed up, it would have been an easy fix.

I tried a hardware store and then Fastenal today, and out of luck in both places. If anyone knows this part number, I can check at Morelock's, but they had no idea what I was talking about the one time I called them about this.

Nothing at McMaster was short enough, btw

This piece is only about 1" -1 1/4" long
1960 Wurlitzer model 700 EP
1968 Gibson G101 Combo organ
1975 Rhodes Piano Bass
1979 Wurlitzer 206A EP
1980 Wurlitzer 270 Butterfly Grand
2009 73A Rhodes Mark 7
2009 Korg SV-1 73
2017 Yamaha P255
2020 Kawai CA99
....and a few guitars...

cinnanon

#12
The threads on a normal wurly sustain pedal are 1/4"-20 i think?  The threads on the nut look like they're 1/2" size, maybe 1/2"-13?  Do you know if that is the thread size of the nut? The pitch looks finer than 1/2"-13 but I can't tell directly from the picture. I wish I still was at my old job (not really though), I could have CNC'd this out of brass hex in about 10 minutes.

cinnanon

You can try a piece of 1/2"-13 all-thread (or whatever the nut thread size is), cut it to length, drill and tap a 1/4"-20 hole in it for now. That should work if you have the means.

pianotuner steveo

No, I have no way to do that, but thanks.

The female end is 1/4"

Not sure what the male end is. 1/2" may be right.


1960 Wurlitzer model 700 EP
1968 Gibson G101 Combo organ
1975 Rhodes Piano Bass
1979 Wurlitzer 206A EP
1980 Wurlitzer 270 Butterfly Grand
2009 73A Rhodes Mark 7
2009 Korg SV-1 73
2017 Yamaha P255
2020 Kawai CA99
....and a few guitars...

voltergeist

Steveo, that's something I could machine for you, if you're able to get photos and dimensions of the part.
Restored or Overhauled: '65 A-model Sparkletop, '78 Suitcase 73, early-'75 Satellite 88, '81 MkII Stage 73, two '77 Mk1 Stage 73's, '74 Mk1 Stage 73
In Progress: 1 '78 Suitcase (2nd one), '70 KMC - Customized w/ Peterson 4x12, '77 Wurli 270

pianotuner steveo

Well,I can't give you photos and dimensions, because I don't have the part!

lol

Thanks, though.

Bcatchings has the part...
1960 Wurlitzer model 700 EP
1968 Gibson G101 Combo organ
1975 Rhodes Piano Bass
1979 Wurlitzer 206A EP
1980 Wurlitzer 270 Butterfly Grand
2009 73A Rhodes Mark 7
2009 Korg SV-1 73
2017 Yamaha P255
2020 Kawai CA99
....and a few guitars...