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[retro-mike]

Test your E.P.I.Q. - This weeks episode:   Whats wrong with this note?
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answer here>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHtKdm3AeuA&feature=youtu.be

[pnoboy]

When are you going to reveal the answer?

[pianotuner steveo]

Some people don't have Facebook... I have no way to answer

[Alan Lenhoff]

Fun idea!  Is this the first of a series?

Alan

[Student Rhodes]

I'm not on facebook, so I'll put my two cents worth here...

My first guess was that something was going on, in relation to the grommets.  This sound is similar to what you get when you put pressure on the tone bar, killing vibrations.  But since that wasn't an option, forget I mentioned it.

This note has the dull thud reminiscent of my Wurli 206 just before the middle Bb snapped, so perhaps it's a tine on it's last few strikes.  However, I've never broken a tine, and I haven't replaced any due to loss of tone, so I really wouldn't know what to listen for to say whether or not it was the tine.

I guess the damper (arm? or just the felt?) is listed as a possibility, were it to be rubbing the tine just enough to kill any resonance.  However, I think I'd expect something with a little more of a "buzz" sound to it, were that the case.

Not sure how a pedestal felt could effect the note, unless it fell off the ped, and somehow got between the hammer and the tine, dampening the note.  I've seen the felts fall off the back of the 76/77 cams, but I can't say from this distance what year the piano is.

So for the heck of it, my first choice is to say it's a tip with a deep groove choking the note. 

Tine replacement is my second guess.

Third choice is Gremlins.

Please keep in mind, I'm just a guitar player dabbling in Rhodes pianos, so my opinion is worth squat.  If you are wagering on this outcome, do not use me to sway your opinion.

Ray

[retro-mike]

it is a series!
The correct answer will be revealed later today

[laberge]

This note has the dull thud reminiscent of my Wurli 206 just before the middle Bb snapped, so perhaps it's a tine on it's last few strikes.  However, I've never broken a tine, and I haven't replaced any due to loss of tone, so I really wouldn't know what to listen for to say whether or not it was the tine.

I'm going with that guess (I answered on FB), it's just so similar to the messed up tine that I had, but it sustained even less.

[retro-mike]

Here's the answer!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHtKdm3AeuA&feature=youtu.be


Stay tuned for the next one, we'll be doing them weekly

[Student Rhodes]

Well, I was on the trail.   I should have gone with my first instinct.
No one else wanted to venture a guess?

[pianotuner steveo]

I did, but I don't have Facebook. I was thinking either really bad grommets or possibly a tine.

[Alan Lenhoff]

I guessed a damper issue...   

Someday, when I've worked on as many Rhodes pianos over my lifetime as Tim handles in a typical month, I'll be better at this game.  But that won't keep me from continuing to guess.  Fun game!

Alan

[retro-mike]

We'll have the next one out soon

[laberge]

Well, I was on the trail.   I should have gone with my first instinct.
No one else wanted to venture a guess?

I posted directly to their FB and in this thread - I was right Yahoo

I honestly think I should start offering local Rhodes repair services in Vancouver BC as the only place that used to do them no longer accepts Rhodes to repair. I just can't tune very well... but I can fix virtually anything else now

[pnoboy]

Here's the answer!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHtKdm3AeuA&feature=youtu.be


Stay tuned for the next one, we'll be doing them weekly

Tim,

Have you ever tried to figure out what causes a tine to go bad?  I would be suspicious of a poor fit into the steel block, but I've never had one to troubleshoot.

[laberge]

Here's the answer!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHtKdm3AeuA&feature=youtu.be


Stay tuned for the next one, we'll be doing them weekly

Tim,

Have you ever tried to figure out what causes a tine to go bad?  I would be suspicious of a poor fit into the steel block, but I've never had one to troubleshoot.

Good question. I think I have a tine that's going bad which I might replace this weekend. If it is bad (could be something else though) I will inspect it and see.