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rebuilding a 140b amp output problems

Started by active, February 25, 2017, 02:13:24 PM

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active

hey all! i lurk here a lot and have gotten a lot of great info from ya'll! thanks for that!

i'm currently rebuilding a 140b that was a literal rats nest. it's all almost working again (yea!), but i am running into a problem without the output signal.

basically, it's too loud! the level control is set at it's lowest, and still it's a little distorted. it looks like the problem is at the output transistor, tr72. emitter is measuring -.6v (instead of -0.06v), base is -0.7v (instead of -0.09v), and collector -33.3v, which is fine. all transistors have been replaced with new ones from vintage vibes. The level control pot has been tested and looks pretty ok, as is the volume knob. tr71 is a bit high on emitter at 33v, and base, at 32.9v. overall, it's all pretty close considering it's a 50+ year old schematic.

the ldr has been upgraded to an LED, which also hasn't been as rich of a vibrato as a 140b with a incandescent. i assume that part of the problem is coming from this part of the circuit. it's at a beautiful volume and no distortion when the led is not in place and the LDR is uncovered to receive natural room light. is there a good source for the original incandescent bulbs out there?

pianotuner steveo

It may not be the problem, but I have seen a similar problem that was caused by a bad volume control.
1960 Wurlitzer model 700 EP
1968 Gibson G101 Combo organ
1975 Rhodes Piano Bass
1979 Wurlitzer 206A EP
2009 73A Rhodes Mark 7
2009 Korg SV-1 73
2017 Yamaha P255
2020 Kawai CA99
....and a few guitars...

active


active

sadly that didn't help much. ended up replacing all the resistors and that got it a little quieter. still not perfect.


cinnanon