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Offline JanustheManus

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No Click?
« on: June 29, 2017, 12:35:12 AM »
Just out of curiosity (and maybe it's to early to worry about this now) but can any of you offer some tips on how to voice or how to adjust the tines in a way that I can get this 70s jazz "click free" sound?

I'm not talking about key noise but if a Rhodes was directly recorded.

This is my ideal sound at 3:30
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G82qRAa2mAg

This is the click that I do NOT want.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CbABM0HtMDs

Is there a way to come close to this soft sine-like sound?

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Re: No Click?
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2017, 04:06:36 AM »
As I understand it, Patrick, you can get a much less "attacky" tone with felts rather than neoprene hammers

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Re: No Click?
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2017, 06:36:06 AM »
Rhodes tips come in different hardnesses, from pretty soft in the bass, to wood core wrapped in rubber in the treble, and other hardnesses in between. You can remove some of the wood core tips and extend the neoprene, and you can adjust the timbre with adjustments screws. You could get felt too, but they don't last as long, the tines cut into them faster than in neoprene.

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Re: No Click?
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2017, 10:30:16 AM »
Thank you!
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Re: No Click?
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2017, 12:30:54 PM »
The piano in the recording is a pre1974 Rhodes according to the notes, and this is definitely an 88-key.  The 88 key models (i.e. Herbie Headhunters, Thrust etc) naturally have a "darker" sound due to the additional pickups in the chain / wiring.  A 73-key from the exact same era, will sound brighter and more present, naturally.

It looks like you have a 1976 Rhodes 73 key, and this sound will be naturally different.  Before doing mechanical modifications to the piano, I might suggest taking a look at EQ options - a pedal perhaps - where you can roll off more of the top end.  Often, the attack of hard hammertips disappears as you EQ out treble.
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Re: No Click?
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2017, 05:28:05 PM »
I did notice that turning up high and mid (With practically no bass) gave me a gritty sound. I turned up the bass with little mid and no high, I definitely got a warmer less attack-filled sound.  ;D When I get my personal Rhodes, I will invest in EQ options
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Re: No Click?
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2017, 05:50:32 PM »
Also wouldn't the bump mod change the tone of my Rhodes?
All vintage vibe Rhodes pianos have the bump mod and have a harsh bark.
Any suggestions?

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Re: No Click?
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2017, 11:14:40 PM »
I don't see how the bump mod would significantly affect tone. Different hammer tips definitely can. I've replaced some of the tips on my MkV to get smoother transitions between the different sections, I made a thread about it a few years ago.
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Re: No Click?
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2017, 09:27:48 AM »
Alright. I guess vintage vibe voice their Rhodes to have more overtones and just pounce on them harder.

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Re: No Click?
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2017, 05:04:48 PM »
Thank you all for your replies!
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Re: No Click?
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2017, 07:59:42 AM »
The piano in the recording is a pre1974 Rhodes according to the notes, and this is definitely an 88-key.  The 88 key models (i.e. Herbie Headhunters, Thrust etc) naturally have a "darker" sound due to the additional pickups in the chain / wiring.  A 73-key from the exact same era, will sound brighter and more present, naturally.

It looks like you have a 1976 Rhodes 73 key, and this sound will be naturally different.  Before doing mechanical modifications to the piano, I might suggest taking a look at EQ options - a pedal perhaps - where you can roll off more of the top end.  Often, the attack of hard hammertips disappears as you EQ out treble.

I'll second Ben's suggestion.  Roll off the treble pretty severely somewhere around 1-3 kHz, and the sound will definitely get darker with less ting on the attack.

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Re: No Click?
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2017, 12:32:28 PM »
Sorry for being late in replying.

I do the eq thing with my Rhodes at school, but I'm sure I could find an eq pedal or something. Thank you!
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