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Plural of Rhodes

Started by David Aubke, July 21, 2017, 09:04:23 AM

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David Aubke

It's a real pain avoiding the plural form of "Rhodes" but I can't figure out how to do it.

Rhodeses? Or is it a self-pluralized word like "sheep"? (Apparently those are called plurale tantum words.)
Dave Aubke
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pianotuner steveo

I doubt it's Rhodeses.. Rhodes sounds right for plural to me...
1960 Wurlitzer model 700 EP
1968 Gibson G101 Combo organ
1975 Rhodes Piano Bass
1979 Wurlitzer 206A EP
2009 73A Rhodes Mark 7
2009 Korg SV-1 73
2017 Yamaha P255
2020 Kawai CA99
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Alan Lenhoff

My suggestion from a long career as a writer/editor: When in doubt, write around the problem. 

So my answer would be "Rhodes pianos."

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David Aubke

Quote from: alenhoff on July 21, 2017, 10:18:16 AMSo my answer would be "Rhodes pianos."

That's what I've been doing so far but I'm getting tired of it. Bugs me to add an unnecessary word just because I can't figure out how to leave it out.
Dave Aubke
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David Aubke

Until I hear otherwise, I'm declaring "Rhodes" to be plurale tantum.

Also, Plurale Tantum is going to be the name of my next band.
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Alan Lenhoff

Quote from: David Aubke on July 21, 2017, 10:48:22 AM
Until I hear otherwise, I'm declaring "Rhodes" to be plurale tantum.

I'm all for having fun with the language, but that would not be correct. Since Rhodes is a last name that ends in an S, it is properly made plural by adding "es."  If you got a Christmas card from Harold and family, it should have said it was from "The Rhodeses," not "The Rhodes,"  "The Rhodes'," "The Rhode's," etc. 

But "Rhodeses" is just plain ugly. Hence the "Rhodes pianos" advice.

>>Bugs me to add an unnecessary word just because I can't figure out how to leave it out.>>

Understood.  In my opinion, you get plenty of value for that extra word because no one will ever be confused by what you meant.

End of grammar lesson...  ;-) 

Alan

Co-author, "Classic Keys: Keyboard Sounds That Launched Rock Music"

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1965 UK Vox Continental;1967 Gibson G101 organ; 1954 Hammond B2; Leslie 21H; Leslie 31H; 1974 Rhodes Mark I Stage 73; 1972 Rhodes Sparkletop Piano Bass; 1978 Hohner Clavinet D6; 1968 Hohner Pianet N II; 1966 Wurlitzer 140B; 1980 Moog Minimoog Model D; 1983 Roland Juno 60; 1983 Roland JX-3P; 1977 Fender Twin Reverb; Vox AC30CC2X amp.
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David Aubke

Quote from: alenhoff on July 21, 2017, 11:29:54 AMSince Rhodes is a last name that ends in an S, it is properly made plural by adding "es."

What are the singular and plural forms of The United States? (I went looking for plurale tantum proper nouns and that's the only example I could find.)

Quote from: alenhoff on July 21, 2017, 11:29:54 AMEnd of grammar lesson...  ;-)

By all means, keep going. I love this stuff.
Dave Aubke
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Tim Hodges

Just like the word cannon, I would refer to multiple of Rhodes still as Rhodes.

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Alan Lenhoff

Quote from: tjh392 on July 24, 2017, 06:37:13 AM
Just like the word cannon, I would refer to multiple of Rhodes still as Rhodes.

As long as we're having good-natured banter about this, your grammar teacher would frown at that statement. Just because there are a small number of singular English nouns that properly also serve as plural nouns, that's not a license for any of us to arbitrarily decide we can bestow that characteristic on any nouns of our choice. The actual question here is:  How does one convert a singular proper noun ending in an "S" to a plural noun?  And the answer is as simple as it is awkward and ugly: Add an "es." 

And one more observation about this language we share across oceans:  In the UK, cannon is plural. In the U.S., people typically say cannons, even though an American dictionary would indicate that both are acceptable.

All that said, if you say you have three Rhodes -- especially on this list --  I will know what you're talking about!

Alan

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1965 UK Vox Continental;1967 Gibson G101 organ; 1954 Hammond B2; Leslie 21H; Leslie 31H; 1974 Rhodes Mark I Stage 73; 1972 Rhodes Sparkletop Piano Bass; 1978 Hohner Clavinet D6; 1968 Hohner Pianet N II; 1966 Wurlitzer 140B; 1980 Moog Minimoog Model D; 1983 Roland Juno 60; 1983 Roland JX-3P; 1977 Fender Twin Reverb; Vox AC30CC2X amp.
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Ben Bove

Use the old style of pluralizing - en.  Oxen, Children, Brethren.

Rhodesen.   :-X
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Alan Lenhoff

Or Latin-style: Cacti, foci, stimuli, fungi.

Rhodesi.  ;)

Alan

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1965 UK Vox Continental;1967 Gibson G101 organ; 1954 Hammond B2; Leslie 21H; Leslie 31H; 1974 Rhodes Mark I Stage 73; 1972 Rhodes Sparkletop Piano Bass; 1978 Hohner Clavinet D6; 1968 Hohner Pianet N II; 1966 Wurlitzer 140B; 1980 Moog Minimoog Model D; 1983 Roland Juno 60; 1983 Roland JX-3P; 1977 Fender Twin Reverb; Vox AC30CC2X amp.
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rhodesjuzz

Though english/american is not my language I would rather avoid it
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David Aubke

Quote from: rhodesjuzz on July 25, 2017, 10:41:33 AM
Though english/american is not my language I would rather avoid it

Um... what's the Dutch word for Rhodes?
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